notDatsyuk
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You obviously know nothing about migraines.
That was a prank pulled by William, Alex, and Michael.
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That was a prank pulled by William, Alex, and Michael.
Perfect observations, they're all bang on. This organisation has been riding the woke wave and it's been at the forefront this entire core-4 era. And as it always has, crashed landed into a smoldering pile of ashes. This soft, juvenile anti-male-aggression agenda has got to end if they ever have a hope of winning anything. Hard, aggressive and in-your-face fighting rosters is what wins cups, not rosters full of players that are presented as childish party animals and allow themselves to be ragdolled by the opposition and then just laugh about it as they're thrown down to the ice like in the Montreal series.. they were totally manhandled and yet 5 years later they're all still here.
We gotta believe that this new McKenna era will turn the page and end this insanity. Let him be a hockey star, and don't paint him as some celebrity kid attending concerts and playing videos games other than playing hockey
We don't know that. You can be great friends with someone one day and then as life just happens, it's off for good. There's no way to know.
Makes sense.
Problem is Leafs management has a very hard time changing the star players because statistically they are stars who rack up pts.
It's clear the core 4 + Rielly are not the solution for years, but they still got 4 of them. And they even offered a contract for Marner to come back. So if he took it, the team would have the same 5 core team for more years.
Management doesnt want to break them up (unless they got to like Marner wanting to leave no matter what) because it looks bad. If they trade away stars in big deals, buy them out or anything like that it shows fans they messed up. So instead they'll ride it out.
Yup. That's my take as well.
Marner's a Toronto boy and his childhood dream was always to win a cup here. That goes without saying.
Something totally derailed that.
If it were problems outside of the dressing room then they would have bonded together and pushed forward.
Seems like the dressing room was fragmented and was irrepairable, whatever the problem may have been.
Just a guess of course but it makes the most sense.
You know why they have a hard time changing star players?
They just want to keep them here because they're "star players" and they can help boost their brand through merchandising and advertising, jersey sales and ticket sales. Just look up the seemingly 100s of videos involving their top players on YouTube, they are endless. It's almost like the players aren't independant contractors but instead are business partners with the team all working together to make themselves and the team more profits. It's all marketing, and very little to do with hockey or winning anything.
Instead of strategically moving one of their stars to bring in some additional talent in order to actually win, they just hang on to these guys for a decade and feature them in commercials and promo videos and rake in the profits from their jersey and ticket sales. Because methodically trading one or more of their stars would actually involve real, experienced hockey guys to manufacture moves like this and guide the way. But since they focus on sales and not wins, they instead bring in rookies like Sundin and Chayka and guys like Pelley who openly admit they know nothing about the game of hockey. Are we seeing things more clearly now? About how this actually works in Toronto?
The real players of the NHL all see this and are very aware of it, and stay away from here if they are serious about winning. They're all on teams like Florida, Vegas, Carolina, etc. and are taking less money to win.
Now of course if players less inclined to win and prefer to make a little more money then those are the guys who might want to come to a market like Toronto instead.
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Marner publicly stated that Matthews was one of his closest friends and it was tough for Mitch to call Matthews and tell him that he was leaving. He also publicly congratulated him on becoming #1 in Goals scored as a Leaf and they both said that they keep in touch a lot and are close friends prior to them playong against each other in the regular season.
If you want to make up some rift with absolutely zero evidence rather than listen to what they have said publicly then I guess youre just stuck in your own world. This is Toronto. Id there was any potwntial/tiny rift between Matthews and Marner, there wouldve been 1,000 news reports about it.
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Absolutely makes the most sense. We'll never know why it went off the rails unless there is some tell all book someday. For me I have always defaulted to Larry Tannenbaum. A real owner or CEO would have came down from the tower and made executive decisions after that MTL series.
Larry is or was the CEO since TPP/Rgrs/Bell and JFJ etc. He blocked the rebuild then and there have been plenty of asleep at the wheel things along the way. Shanaplan, Dubas, Babcock, NuHockey and all sorts of clues.
Hope for the best. Larry won't live forever and Pelleys clown shoes will trip him up sooner or later.
Should have moved two of the core 4 after the Columbus loss in 2020. I said it all that year. Needed to be Tavares and one other.
Management at the time refused to do anything to change the course of this era.
Didn't Marner just say he'll reveal all if they win the Cup? That's only two more victories.
Because they were bringing in too much revenue on jersey and ticket sales. They kept selling the "run it back" catchphrase because during games 1-82 these players were selling merchandise and selling hope.
No one in management of the team was allowed to do antyhing, you think Treliving would be allowed to trade Matthews without running it by them first? He knew that was never even an option lol. This team will never ever trade their cash cows.
Because it's about profits, not about winning. It's been said for decades and decades and it's still happening today. And it's more obvious now than ever.
