Speculation: Official Fantasy Trade Offers/Armchair GM Thread

[batting1k]

Lol guys, cmon. Tallon has referred to Gudbranson and Kulikov as the future of our defense core and has left Huberdeau out sometimes when listing the core. Players listed or not listed does not matter at all.

What Rowe said last year, and what Joyce and Tallon said recently corroborates what I've heard on my own about Pysyk, so it's not surprising to me at all.

I think you're all underestimating what they think of Pysyk.

 

[BeezKnees]

What Rowe said last year, and what Joyce and Tallon said recently corroborates what I've heard on my own about Pysyk, so it's not surprising to me at all.

I think you're all underestimating what they think of Pysyk.

fwiw, my comment had nothing to do with Pysyk. I know he's valuable.

 

[batting1k]

fwiw, my comment had nothing to do with Pysyk. I know he's valuable.

Yes sorry, was just replying to the comment in general

 

[CanadianPantherFan]

Ok, I'll take an L here...just found this:

https://www.fanragsports.com/news/tallon-im-foreseeing-sometime-playoffs-coaching-hire/



He does say he wants to add grit on the backend, but also notes that he wants to utilize the skills and tools we already have. He agrees that the D should be able to get up in the play and be involved offensively, something Pysyk is good at.

So who knows what they do, but again, I wouldn't be surprised to see them at least try to retain both 6 and 13 rather than helplessly lose one.

Yes , and get rid of Emers. I hope GG gets sold a bill of goods on him when Tallon was at WC with Gallant.

There was Petro hate going on here last preseason. He was not talked up as our best dman in playoffs (correct me if I'm wrong but Matheson, Kuli and maybe another guy were talked up from their performances ). There was trepidation about Matheson taking on larger role with youngish fresh faced blueline ( I was wrong on certain things I said about Matheson thriving ) but I also defended Petrovic a lot around this time last year as well. People were making fun of him losing fights, not wanting to wait for another Guds progression curve and maybe not even getting to that level, him being passed over in the depth charts by Pysyk /McCoshen/ others in AHL currently , doubting his offensive IQ etc

I like your videos on Pysyk zone departures, but some people need to pump the breaks on him if they think he's clear choice over Petrovic. I still want Petro 60-65% over Pysyk IF it comes down to one over the other.

Please Vegas take Emers

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

What an awfully grim way to look at things.

(...not that it's that far away from reality, but...)

I think the difference is that any changes in those areas are currently pure speculation, while thinking of which D to protect presents a simpler scenario with mostly known variables, so it's easier to discuss (and we do have that whole thread thinking about coaching).

That's not to say they shouldn't address those issues you mentioned, because they absolutely should if this team is to go anywhere.

But much like replacing Guds and Kulikov, it is putting something trivial over much more pressing issues.

And I'm not negative, I'm just a realist.

Adding 1 good RW should fix that.

I think there's a good chance they don't bring back Jagr. He goes against everything they want to do.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

But much like replacing Guds and Kulikov, it is putting something trivial over much more pressing issues.

And I'm not negative, I'm just a realist.


I think there's a good chance they don't bring back Jagr. He goes against everything they want to do.

No, I think you have a great point. You just make it sound very very bleak

If they don't bring Jagr back, it means they have a replacement - they'd be complete idiots if they didn't bring him back otherwise, philosophy fit or not. So there's one of your RWs, Jagr or this imaginary new acquisition. If Smith can bounce back next year (and chances are decent that he can), then at worst you have two second line RWs. They WILL hire a coach in the next few weeks (Tallon said he wanted one before the draft, so that deadline is still there). Re: the goalie situation, it's a bit of a wildcard. We have two possibly very good starters, both of which have some warts (Lu is old, Reimer's career max is 43 games), so that could work out great, or not so great. However, unless Lu is claimed in the expansion draft, we're probably stuck with them for the next year at least.

The bottom 6 is an absolute mess and they need to address that, no question there.

So, coach is being acquired, the 1RW depends on if they can find a Jagr replacement, the 2RW is IMO already in the system. We have a whole thread about the coach, we've been talking about the replacement 1RW across multiple threads for at least a year now (whether it's Landeskong, RNH, lately Kovalchuk etc.). I suppose doing something with the goalies could be possible - Reimer shouldn't be difficult to trade, perhaps even for a goalie vet like MAF? - but I doubt they'll go there because they brought him here to be our future starter and that option hasn't been disproved yet (and if they're right, then Reimer's cap situation is great for us).

We could talk about fixing the bottom six, but that's an even wider discussion than the 1RW, because not many bottom-sixers are "untouchable" the way that 1RWs are. Therefore, you're essentially looking at the bottom six of all those 29 teams, plus some great AHLers with a little NHL experience who might be ready to make the jump ala Marchy... and now try to predict who we could acquire.

But hey, let's talk about those things! Who would you like at the 1RW and how would you acquire him? How would you rebuild the bottom six - who would you keep and what would you ideally want in the replacements?

 

[BB88]

I think there's a good chance they don't bring back Jagr. He goes against everything they want to do.

If they want to keep building from last offseason they probably should.

Just take a look at what the Pens did around the time Sullivan became the coach, or in away Nashville with Weber- Subban trade.

I know there's chemistry between the 3 but they need a faster guy on that line.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

But hey, let's talk about those things! Who would you like at the 1RW and how would you acquire him? How would you rebuild the bottom six - who would you keep and what would you ideally want in the replacements?

Well a 1st line winger is out of the equation, that ship sailed last year.

I would buy out MacKenzie and trade Bjugstad retaining most of his salary for a mid round pick.

Those things won't happen either.

Best case scenario is hope essentially the entire team turns it around. All players, for better or for worse, are locked in, so there won't be much turnover.

If they play like they're expected too, they can make it as a lower seed and be a (likely) one and done playoff team.

They won't be able to be more successful (and I use that term lightly) than the '16 team, because the problems that plagued that team were never fixed.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Caps announced Karl Alzner won't be returning. Potential replacement for who we lose? (I imagine Edmonton, Dallas, Buffalo will all have heavy interest)

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Caps announced Karl Alzner won't be returning. Potential replacement for who we lose? (I imagine Edmonton, Dallas, Buffalo will all have heavy interest)

Yes please.

Matheson, Ekblad, Yandle, Alzner. I'd like that to be our top 4 next season.

 

[ShootIt]

Would be nice, but there may very well be a decent bidding war for him.

 

[Haj]

I don't think we will need an outside replacement, unless Petrovic is

Weegar is ready to step in.

McCoshen will be a call up.

If anything they need another 7th dman/ call up.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

If anything they need another 7th dman/ call up.

Kindl is probably available.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

I don't think we will need an outside replacement, unless Petrovic is

Weegar is ready to step in.

McCoshen will be a call up.

If anything they need another 7th dman/ call up.

Our defense was terrible last year, and you want to add a rookie to replace a dman who played well last year?

 

[Android 16]

If Kindl is still in this organization by October I will contemplate not watching.

 

[Olax]

One interesting player that I haven't seen mentioned here is the Finnish League top scorer Henrik Haapala. Guy is 23 and scored 60 points in 51 games this season. He has been a linemate to Barkov both in the juniors and in Finnish Elite League. Is a little bit small in size, but has great offensive tools. Good agility, playmaking skills, hands and vision, good on the PP. Actually, I'm kind of surprised that he is not discussed more about at HF.

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Also, with all this Kovalchuck talk here, I would actually be more interested in Yevgeni Dadonov. No idea what the relationship between him and the Panthers organization is though. If he decides to come back to the NHL, I would be interested him since he still has a few years in his prime. He has definetely developed a lot since leaving the Panthers and NHL few years ago.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

If Kindl is still in this organization by October I will contemplate not watching.

I don't believe this management group is that full of themselves that they won't acknowledge they made a mistake.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

......Henrik Haapala

I brought him up a month or two ago, SoupyFIN and I discussed him and Savinainen.

 

[BarkyRatter]

[...]Haapala[...]

Yesterday I saw this and thought "Hey, Henrik might be a good addition, even though he needs to get stronger", and after I readed from Aamulehti that he would join the Panthers, my mind was blown.

I think he's a good raffle ticket, I think he has a 20-40% chance to make it to the NHL and that is a good chance IMO. And he propably also raises Sasha's morale and since #16 is our messiah in this organisation, the deal is even better.

 

[Cor]

Hey guys, has there been any talk, or thought of you guys possibly moving Aaron Ekblad?

If there has, [well, even if there hasn't] I would love to know what type of deal you guys would find acceptable.

And on a (possibly) more realistic note, what type of deal would you guys be looking for, for Demers/Pysyk/Petrovic?

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Hey guys, has there been any talk, or thought of you guys possibly moving Aaron Ekblad?

If there has, [well, even if there hasn't] I would love to know what type of deal you guys would find acceptable.

And on a (possibly) more realistic note, what type of deal would you guys be looking for, for Demers/Pysyk/Petrovic?

Ekblad for someone with similar upside at the forward position. MacKinnon.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Hey guys, has there been any talk, or thought of you guys possibly moving Aaron Ekblad?

If there has, [well, even if there hasn't] I would love to know what type of deal you guys would find acceptable.

And on a (possibly) more realistic note, what type of deal would you guys be looking for, for Demers/Pysyk/Petrovic?

If Ekblad is getting traded, Marner or Nylander has to be on the table. I'd prefer we hold onto him and if he was ever to be traded, I'd hope it'd never be in the same division.

Kapanen for Petrovic or Pysyk.

 

[Brokin]

Hey guys, has there been any talk, or thought of you guys possibly moving Aaron Ekblad?

If there has, [well, even if there hasn't] I would love to know what type of deal you guys would find acceptable.

And on a (possibly) more realistic note, what type of deal would you guys be looking for, for Demers/Pysyk/Petrovic?

With so many question marks about his health and poor play it's Russian Roulette for any team willing to roll the dice.

Take the contract, offer us Kapanen and see what happens. We need top six RW's in the worst way.

 

[Brokin]

I don't think he'll be one of first to get the call unless he goes to a point-per-game frenzy in the AHL. Too many smaller dudes in the AHL, can't ice an entire team consisting of smurfs. They have to acquire some serious sandpaper and grit for the forward group.

Yeah it really depends on who's producing at the time. Both Hawryluk and McCann will need to show more than an occasional few spurts of talent that they can score if they are at the top of the pecking order as call-ups. With Haapala in the fold it makes me wonder if they will send Rau a qualifying offer.

I see Jordan Weal and his agent had a sit down with Hextall the other day. Nothing came of it apparently as they signed shoe in top 9 LW Lindblom to an ELC who just jumped ahead of Weal on the depth chart. On top of that Weal is aware that with the overall 2nd this year, Hischier or Patrick will move ahead of him at the C position. Weal would like a nice contract with term and Hextall won't give him that with Lindblom and the 2nd overall in the picture. Hopefully the Cats make a legit offer and sign him as I think the Pens and other contenders will make a push to sign him with the promise of a Cup ring.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Yeah it really depends on who's producing at the time. Both Hawryluk and McCann will need to show more than an occasional few spurts of talent that they can score if they are at the top of the pecking order as call-ups. With Haapala in the fold it makes me wonder if they will send Rau a qualifying offer.

I see Jordan Weal and his agent had a sit down with Hextall the other day. Nothing came of it apparently as they signed shoe in top 9 LW Lindblom to an ELC who just jumped ahead of Weal on the depth chart. On top of that Weal is aware that with the overall 2nd this year, Hischier or Patrick will move ahead of him at the C position. Weal would like a nice contract with term and Hextall won't give him that with Lindblom and the 2nd overall in the picture. Hopefully the Cats make a legit offer and sign him as I think the Pens and other contenders will make a push to sign him with the promise of a Cup ring.

I think the org already knows that Rau needs a change of scenery. Probably yet another "soon-to-be-bust for an equivalent"-trade will be his fate with the Cats.

If the Cats can make a lucrative offer for Weal and he bites, that should put this team in a very good spot skill-wise even though he's not expected to be a dominant force.