Speculation: Official Fantasy Trade Offers/Armchair GM Thread

[batting1k]

petrovic would absolutely be the one who gets protected. I'm fine losing Pysyk but I think Jokinen on a 1 year deal would be more attractive

Not a chance Petrovic is protected over Pysyk.

 

[BB88]

He's attractive because he is an expiring contract that will help them get to the cap floor without tying them to a bad long term deal. There is going to be a lot of work for Tallon this offseason regardless.

I doubt the cap is going to be a problem, and the difference between the salaries of the 2 is going to change after Pysyk gets re-signed.

Pysyk could help them 10 years and has more value. When I wathed Florida games I thought they could play a better defense, losing Pysyk would be a bad way to start that.

 

[Gentle Man]

Not a chance Petrovic is protected over Pysyk.

That an opinion or insider info?

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

That would leave lot of work to this offseason for Tallon.

I don't think Jokinen is very attractive, old and had a brutal season,(injury) factored into it.

Tallon already has a lot of work this offseason. He's gonna have to pull off some miracles or we'll be picking 10th again.

 

[BB88]

Tallon already has a lot of work this offseason. He's gonna have to pull off some miracles or we'll be picking 10th again.

Tallon should be calling New Jersey non stop about Kovy, top9 gets helluva lot scarier with 1 move.
If he prefers New York/Florida you already know neither of the 2 New York teams are favourites to land him, Tampa is still/again in cap trouble. Be aggressive.

Defense needs desperately a great offseason by Ekblad, don't really know who they could trade for that could improve it that much. Maybe call Minnesota for one of Brodin/Scandella, Vatanen is RD so likely a no.

 

[batting1k]

That an opinion or insider info?

A little of both but mostly an assumption and a hunch. How many times did we hear someone from the team say Pysyk is going to be a top 4 defenseman and that they've been trying to get him for a while, etc. go back to when we made the trade.

Eric Joyce said on the radio in April that Pysyk "was a rock for us all season"

 

[harv33173]

A little of both but mostly an assumption and a hunch. How many times did we hear someone from the team say Pysyk is going to be a top 4 defenseman and that they've been trying to get him for a while, etc. go back to when we made the trade.

Eric Joyce said on the radio in April that Pysyk "was a rock for us all season"

then i would assume demers is left unprotected and he probably get pick up by vegas due to his performance at the worlds and gg coaching the d for team canada. i can't see letting petro go personally. we can replace demers with an efficient d-man for the contract he has, or less.

 

[Gentle Man]

A little of both but mostly an assumption and a hunch. How many times did we hear someone from the team say Pysyk is going to be a top 4 defenseman and that they've been trying to get him for a while, etc. go back to when we made the trade.

Eric Joyce said on the radio in April that Pysyk "was a rock for us all season"

Unless I am mistaken, I didnt hear Tallon say that. So Ill wait to see what Tallon does and not base it on what Joyce has said.

 

[IceManCat]

Not a chance Petrovic is protected over Pysyk.

While I think Pysyk is the best defensive player on the team, Petrovic is better when it comes to all around play. He is the only defenseman left that can play physical, he is also good offensively and solid defensively himself. All around Petro is a better player.

 

[SoupyFIN]

At the end of the day, discussing which bottom pairing d-man we can afford to lose just further proves how weak our d-core and the organizational depth is. Any other team with bottom pairing guys that aren't likely to jump into the top4 (I don't see that potential in Pysyk/Petro) wouldn't care which one they're losing, because they know they can replace that guy from within the organization or free agency.

Management talking about Pysyk as a top4 guy is nice and all, but you look at the results on the ice and it doesn't add up. He's a bottom pairing guy.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Not a chance Petrovic is protected over Pysyk.

Petrovic is a Tallon pick, no? Isn't he in charge again? He's usually protective of his players... Also wouldn't the ultimate goal be to have them take Demers? If Petrovic is up with him, I know who Luce will advise to take, whereas with Pysyk vs Demers I don't know which way they lean.

 

[FrolikFan67]

id protect pysyk all day over petrovic. nothing against petrovic its just pysyk is a better and smarter player/defender. the only thing petrovic has on his is size/strength and a harder shot but its not like either of them are relied upon for their offense so it really doesnt matter much. give me the smarter player over the stronger player. i know we could use a little strength on the backend, but ekblad has size, matheson has underrated strength, mccoshen if he plays is pretty big. i won't let the better player walk simply because of how strong someone else is.

hes also a fantastic rock to hold down a pairing. whether its with yandle, or a shutdown 3rd pairing with mccoshen. i love the versatility of being able to pair him up with pretty much any other defender and be happy with the line.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

id protect pysyk all day over petrovic. nothing against petrovic its just pysyk is a better and smarter player/defender. the only thing petrovic has on his is size/strength and a harder shot but its not like either of them are relied upon for their offense so it really doesnt matter much. give me the smarter player over the stronger player. i know we could use a little strength on the backend, but ekblad has size, matheson has underrated strength, mccoshen if he plays is pretty big. i won't let the better player walk simply because of how strong someone else is.

hes also a fantastic rock to hold down a pairing. whether its with yandle, or a shutdown 3rd pairing with mccoshen. i love the versatility of being able to pair him up with pretty much any other defender and be happy with the line.

I agree. I'd like to keep both, but if it's just one of them, then I keep Pysyk.

 

[batting1k]

Unless I am mistaken, I didnt hear Tallon say that. So Ill wait to see what Tallon does and not base it on what Joyce has said.

Lmao alright. Just so you know, the exposure/protection decisions won't be only made by Tallon. He's not the only one in the front office.

 

[batting1k]

id protect pysyk all day over petrovic. nothing against petrovic its just pysyk is a better and smarter player/defender. the only thing petrovic has on his is size/strength and a harder shot but its not like either of them are relied upon for their offense so it really doesnt matter much. give me the smarter player over the stronger player. i know we could use a little strength on the backend, but ekblad has size, matheson has underrated strength, mccoshen if he plays is pretty big. i won't let the better player walk simply because of how strong someone else is.

hes also a fantastic rock to hold down a pairing. whether its with yandle, or a shutdown 3rd pairing with mccoshen. i love the versatility of being able to pair him up with pretty much any other defender and be happy with the line.

Agreed. Pysyk was literally paired with every defenseman this season and made all of them better. They trusted him enough to pair him with McCoshen and Weegar, and he played a ton with Kindl and rookie Matheson.

I think that definitely says a lot about what the front office and coaching staff thinks of Pysyk.

 

[batting1k]

Petrovic is a Tallon pick, no? Isn't he in charge again? He's usually protective of his players... Also wouldn't the ultimate goal be to have them take Demers? If Petrovic is up with him, I know who Luce will advise to take, whereas with Pysyk vs Demers I don't know which way they lean.

But to assume that Tallon & the front office would protect Petrovic solely because he is a Tallon pick isn't necessarily right.

Front office: Ok, who should we protect, Pysyk or Petrovic
Tallon: Petrovic because I was GM when he was picked.
Front office: But Pysyk is pretty good too, shouldn't we consider him at least?
Tallon: No, I didn't have a say in drafting him.

 

[batting1k]

"[Panthers coach Gerard Gallant] wants defensemen who can move the puck out of our end; both Pysyk and Yandle do a real good job of that. Pysyk might not put up a ton of points, but he's excellent at reading plays, moving the puck out and making real good crisp passes to get those forwards on the way to the offensive zone. I see Pysyk as a top-four defenseman for the next 12 years."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/florida-panthers/fl-florida-panthers-0626-20160625-story.html

I have a hard time believing the Panthers would expose a player they see as a top-4 defenseman for the next 12 years one season after acquiring him, especially when he was probably the most consistent defensemen we had.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/florida-panthers/fl-florida-panthers-0626-20160625-story.html

I have a hard time believing the Panthers would expose a player they see as a top-4 defenseman for the next 12 years one season after acquiring him, especially when he was probably the most consistent defensemen we had.

I wouldn't put too much importance on what Rowe said a year ago...

 

[batting1k]

I wouldn't put too much importance on what Rowe said a year ago...

Ah ok. So they acquired him for no reason. Got it.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Ah ok. So they acquired him for no reason. Got it.

No, I don't think you got. I said that I wouldn't read too much what Rowe said about a year ago. You think that Tallon has some kind of an obligation to play according to the tune set by Rowe, for an example protecting Pysyk just because he's a recent trade piece?

 

[I am not exposed]

Agreed. Pysyk was literally paired with every defenseman this season and made all of them better. They trusted him enough to pair him with McCoshen and Weegar, and he played a ton with Kindl and rookie Matheson.

I think that definitely says a lot about what the front office and coaching staff thinks of Pysyk.

We should have given him the $7.5m contract, and not Ekblad.

 

[Gentle Man]

Lmao alright. Just so you know, the exposure/protection decisions won't be only made by Tallon. He's not the only one in the front office.

Ok.

Is Tallon the one forming this team or not?

He already said he wants to add some toughness, grit, all the Tallon staples.

Letting Petrovic go, the only one thats really different from this D core, accomplishes this how?

Unless the plan is to get it via free agency? Thats just not an efficient way of doing this.

I agree with soup above. I dont see top 4 in Pysyk. If he is in your top-4, your D core isnt very good then.

He is a top end bottom pair though, Ill say that.

 

[batting1k]

Ok.

Is Tallon the one forming this team or not?

He already said he wants to add some toughness, grit, all the Tallon staples.

Letting Petrovic go, the only one thats really different from this D core, accomplishes this how?

Unless the plan is to get it via free agency? Thats just not an efficient way of doing this.

I agree with soup above. I dont see top 4 in Pysyk. If he is in your top-4, your D core isnt very good then.

He is a top end bottom pair though, Ill say that.

There's so many options with the expansion draft. We could protect Pysyk and swing a deal with Vegas to keep Petrovic. We can trade for a player that they want and agree for Vegas to take that player instead of someone else. We can make a deal for them to not take Petrovic or make a deal for them to take Demers.

Why are we assuming that a current roster player will be lost? There's so many ways around it.

But either way, I don't think it's fair to say Pysyk won't be protected just because Tallon is in charge. He knows the way the league is going and where it already is and will make a decision, with inputs from other front office staff, that is in the best interest of the team.

I don't think it's as simple as Tallon saying "I was GM when Petrovic was chosen in the 2nd round so I'm gonna keep him over Pysyk." Sorry, but that's just poor thinking and if that's the case, Tallon should be canned. Don't need a GM with blinders on.

 

[batting1k]

No, I don't think you got. I said that I wouldn't read too much what Rowe said about a year ago. You think that Tallon has some kind of an obligation to play according to the tune set by Rowe, for an example protecting Pysyk just because he's a recent trade piece?

You're missing the point. Rowe wasn't the only guy that decided to get Pysyk. There was undoubtedly input from scouts and other front office staff. The move was agreed on I assume and Rowe was just communicating the details of the trade to the media.

I can tell you that the team's view of Pysyk has not changed. You can trust me on that one.

 

[Brokin]

^There is no way Petro gets exposed over Pysyk. Geez we have enough napkins on this team for a picnic. I think you would all be shocked at the number of teams that would jump at the chance to have him on their blue line. Pysyk is a generic 4/5 dman just like Petro except he offers zero physical intimidation which is something the rest of the league and Tallon understand is an important component as long as the league continues on their present trajectory of accepting cheap shots as a mandatory selling point to the fans.