Official 2024-25 Utah HC Season Discussion.

[cobra427]

I will be disappointed for the first time if we don't have a 15 or so point jump in the standings next season. I figure the team has to eventually break out.

An exciting offseason is needed to take that next step. Like Jakey said, it's all about timing and I think the time to start moving assets is here. We're asset rich and in good shape for it. Just feels like the time BA has been saving up for has arrived.

15 points is a big jump, if we fade and finish with 75 points it could happen. BA/Bear have never had a major jump in points. If we finish with 83, a jump to 98 would be huge, I am all for it

 

[TheLegend]

BA has said, many times, that he was given the green light from Meruelo to spend what he needed. Timing is all it is.

Reports said otherwise.

Yes.... he put together a big staff with a pedigree. But we were still playing cap games to ice a team at the bottom. Where we didn't was when Chayka tried making a splash bringing in Phil Kessel and Taylor Hall. But that was way back when Meruelo bought the franchise and wanted to make a splash (NOT unlike what Matt Ishiba tried with the Suns and we're seeing how that's been working out now)..... and it still goes back to where corners were being cut all around elsewhere.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Smith & Fan Expectations
3. Utah fans expectations. Most fans are entirely new to the sport and will tolerate however they play. They'll be good when the novelty factor has started to fade. There's no fan or media pressure for this team to start making short-term moves.

Yeah, I would think Utah is in a position similar to we were in the mid 90s. A team sort of gets dropped in your lap out of thin air; they're "on the verge" instead of a 10-win expansion team so that's fun and encouraging; not that many people know the league, the players, how teams are built, etc etc. (at least I didn't in 1996) so there will be patience....

Now if the team follows the Jets/Yotes curse...they'll easily make the playoffs 5 of the next 6 years but not make it out of the first round...and then the fans will start getting restless...etc etc....

 

[lanky]

Random thought that made me smile yesterday....

Cooley + Guenther >>>> Turris + Boedker

And if I take it a bit further....

But + Iginla >>>> Samuelsson+ Domi

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

they're not on the same planet.

Cooley & Guenther will both be 100pt players...and it's just a tragedy it won't be in the kachina

 

[Summer Rose]

Well, it might be a controversial take but I'll just say it anyway... I feel like we overrate Boedker slightly due to the memory of his overtime goals against Chicago in the 2012 playoffs. Both of which, if you look at them, were almost entirely on Crawford's misplay. It could have been anyone just tossing the puck on net (or in the case of the second one even, having the partial breakaway) only to see Crawford have a brain fart on both.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

I can never respond directly on mobile...

@cobra427

It is lofty. When I look at how the young guys are developing, better luck with injuries, But & Sim, any moves BA makes before next season to improve the bottom lines, etc... I think it's doable.

I feel injury alone cost us a lot in the standings this season and we shouldn't be hit as hard next season. That alone goes a long way to a big jump. Replace any passengers (Crouse, Maccelli, Bjugstad) and add everything else.

We'll see!

 

[LittlePipes]

what are GM tenures and HC tenures like on the NBA Jazz? Has Smith been extra patient or not so much ?

 

[MIGs Dog]

what are GM tenures and HC tenures like on the NBA Jazz? Has Smith been extra patient or not so much ?

He's owned the Jazz since 2020. One GM and two head coaches.

 

[Llewzaher]

Boy memories ….

I 5hink we got the short end of the stick as far as luck goes ….everytime we had a great team …or traded for grea5 players , there was a lock out , or lockdown before we could see what could have happened..

2012 after getting to the quarters…..the year we traded for Brett Hull and Nedved….Hull would have been a different player if he hadn’t taken a year off

Then Kolanos ,and Mueller getting concussions ( we should retire the number 11)

Then how many times did we get screwed in the draft ?

Then for me as a Jets fan ..it was a kick in the head losing Selanee

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Boy memories ….

I 5hink we got the short end of the stick as far as luck goes ….everytime we had a great team …or traded for grea5 players , there was a lock out , or lockdown before we could see what could have happened..

2012 after getting to the quarters…..the year we traded for Brett Hull and Nedved….Hull would have been a different player if he hadn’t taken a year off

Then Kolanos ,and Mueller getting concussions ( we should retire the number 11)

Then how many times did we get screwed in the draft ?

Then for me as a Jets fan ..it was a kick in the head losing Selanee

Yeah, I remember going to the playoff series against the Ducks that first year, and it was "that guy was ours? wow, I mean I like Tverdovsky and all (he had a great year), but why did they let Selanne go?"