Official 2023 World Junior Championship Thread

Curufinwe

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Well, Farabee was still a bit in over his head at 19 in the NHL. The question really isn't if a player can play at that level. Gauthier wouldn't look out of place in the AHL. The question is if it's best for hitting his ceiling. Farabee also didn't have this positional uncertainty. If you really want to see if a player can stick at center, why rush his comfort level? It's case by case: Gauthier still has a lot of feeling out to do with his game. But I fully expect he signs his ELC this spring. Something something size (even though playing more physical with the puck is an area he needs to develop).
I fully expect for there to be positional uncertainty over Gauthier well into his 20s, and it may only be figured out when he goes to another team like Carter and Schenn.
 

Curufinwe

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Frost played 20 NHL games at 20, was over his head, and 41 AHL games.
Then missed a year.
People then whined when he started in the AHL and played 24 more games at 22.
2019-20: 41g 11-8 19 at ES
2021-22: 24g 5-7 12
65g 16-15 31, which is not dominant play at the AHL level.

Tippett
2019-20: 46g 12-14 26
2021-21: 12g 4-5 9
58g 16-19 35

Both players could have probably profited from a full AHL season plus, both were rushed, both struggled, both are playing better now, both still have a ways to go.
Konecny played 70 NHL games as a 19 year old. Why didn't you protest and say he should have been left in Junior back then ? Because you just agree with everything that the Flyers do no matter what since you have no actual ability to evaluate hockey players as individuals.
 

deadhead

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Konecny played 70 NHL games as a 19 year old. Why didn't you protest and say he should have been left in Junior back then ? Because you just agree with everything that the Flyers do no matter what since you have no actual ability to evaluate hockey players as individuals.
I have said that, TK struggled his first three seasons, basically played at a 4th line level when he wasn't with G and Couts (who also made Raffl into a 20 goal scorer). Then at 22, the light went on and he raised his game a notch and started driving play instead of being carried on a line.

Learning defensive fundamentals doesn't stifle offense, see Kopitar, Couts, G, the "perfection line", Sidney the second half of his career . . .
Instead, it's just a matter of making back checking and being in the right defensive position second nature, so when the player doesn't have the puck, he knows what he's supposed to be doing.

Defense is discipline, offense is instinctual, you can teach fundamentals, but you can't teach vision, anticipation, great skating.
 

BigToe

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Defense is discipline, offense is instinctual, you can teach fundamentals, but you can't teach vision, anticipation, great skating.
I feel like you can build drills that'll improve these things. You see it a lot in soccer. Idk about great skating though.
 

Magua

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These jerseys are better and should be the only ones worn in elimination games:

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Tripod

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Canada with their mindset deserves to lose. Not sure if you guys saw it, but pre-game they had multiple players talking how they had the edge just because they were a bigger team.

Idiots
 
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