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[LeafSteel]

Wonder if it was just a Dubas thing where other GMs had fun f***ing with him.

Everyone thought Kyle was a smary bell end. So, so glad he is gone.

It is nice to have a GM who thinks outside the box and seems determined to give youth a chance.

I am hoping they move Robertson as well. I've never seen anything in him to justify being put next to Matthews and Marner on a paper lineup, like most.

It honestly did feel like those waiver claims were deliberate, and it did make me question how Dubas was perceived by the other GM’s.

No way to prove anything but I’m relieved Dubas is gone, and we kept all our waived players.

 

[stickty111]

 

[Bravid Nonahan]

Am I missing something or did Cowan make the team, at least until Timmins is back?

Actually looks like they haven't signed Gregor yet.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Am I missing something or did Cowan make the team, at least until Timmins is back?

Actually looks like they haven't signed Gregor yet.

Don't read anything into any roster until 5 PM tomorrow. Leafs are just trying to get as close to the 83.5 ceiling as possible by 5 PM today and then can't finalize the actual game 1 roster until tomorrow at 5 PM. The number they've agreed on with Gregor must be not very usable for that purpose so they wait until tomorrow to sign him and use Cowan and McMann in the meantime. Cowan likely gets sent back tomorrow and McMann probably doesn't stick around either. 1 of Holmberg, Robertson or someone else could come back up to fill out the 21 man roster along with Gregor

 

[Bravid Nonahan]

Don't read anything into any roster until 5 PM tomorrow. Leafs are just trying to get as close to the 83.5 ceiling as possible by 5 PM today and then can't finalize the actual game 1 roster until tomorrow at 5 PM. The number they've agreed on with Gregor must be not very usable for that purpose so they wait until tomorrow to sign him and use Cowan and McMann in the meantime. Cowan likely gets sent back tomorrow and McMann probably doesn't stick around either. 1 of Holmberg, Robertson or someone else could come back up to fill out the 21 man roster along with Gregor

Got it, thanks. Thought the deadline was 5 pm today.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Got it, thanks. Thought the deadline was 5 pm today.

The deadline to set your cap compliant season opening roster was today. But you can then change it tomorrow, and again the day after etc, etc. So outside of having to get under the cap todays roster is essentially meaningless.

The way you initially become cap compliant using LTIR matters, and it's done by trying to get as close as possible to the ceiling without the injured players. So whatever 21 guys the Leafs used for this purpose is kind of irrelevant to the roster that will be playing on Wednesday.

 

[Puckstuff]

I haven't watched much but I imagine Cowan would go down to the OHL and they will sign Gregor and bring up Holmberg as the 13th forward before opening night? That would get them 106 k above the cap with 13 forwards, 6 D, 2 G assuming around an 800 k cap hit for Gregor.

Not sure how they get Timmins on the roster when he's healthy. His 1.1 m would be too much unless they go with with 11 forwards, 7 D.

 

[uncleben]

LEGEND: NHL contract/rights	AHL/ECHL contract	Try-out	+Injured
Development Camp	Rookie Camp	Training Camp	Starting Roster
		Abruzzese, Nick
Assadourian, Alex
		Bertuzzi, Tyler	Bertuzzi, Tyler
		Blandisi, Joseph
		Caufield, Brock
		Clifford, Kyle
Cowan, Easton	Cowan, Easton	Cowan, Easton	Cowan, Easton
De St. Phalle, Mathieu
		Domi, Max	Domi, Max
	Ellis, Max	Ellis, Max
Frasca, Jacob	Frasca, Jacob	Frasca, Jacob
		Gambrell, Dylan	Gambrell, Dylan+
Greenway, Tyson	Greenway, Tyson
		Gregor, Noah
Haymes, Luke
Hedqvist, Isac
Henry , Matthew
Hirvonen, Roni	Hirvonen, Roni	Hirvonen, Roni
		Holmberg, Pontus
		Järnkrok, Calle	Järnkrok, Calle
		Kämpf, David	Kämpf, David
	Knies, Matthew	Knies, Matthew	Knies, Matthew
Kressler, Braeden	Kressler, Braeden	Kressler, Braeden+
		Lafferty, Sam
Lisowsky, Brandon	Lisowsky, Brandon	Lisowsky, Brandon
Malinoski, Landon
		Marner, Mitch	Marner, Mitch
	Mastrosimone, Robert	Mastrosimone, Robert
		Matthews, Auston	Matthews, Auston
McCallum, Landon
		McMann, Bobby+	McMann, Bobby
McMillan, Deagen
Miettinen, Veeti
Mignosa, Marco
Miller, Joe
Minten, Fraser	Minten, Fraser	Minten, Fraser	Minten, Fraser
Moldenhauer, Nicholas
		Nylander, William	Nylander, William
		O'Brien, Jay
	Ovchinnikov, Dmitry	Ovchinnikov, Dmitry
Rautiainen, Ben
		Reaves, Ryan	Reaves, Ryan
		Robertson, Nick
		Shaw, Logan
		Shea, Neil
		Singleton, Tate
		Slavin, Josiah
Sop, Matt
		Steeves, Alex
		Suthers, Keenan
		Tavares, John	Tavares, John
Tverberg, Ryan	Tverberg, Ryan	Tverberg, Ryan
Voit, Ty	Voit, Ty	Voit, Ty+
Weiss, Tyler	Weiss, Tyler	Weiss, Tyler
-----​	-----​	-----​	-----​
		Benoit, Simon (D)
		Brodie, TJ (D)	Brodie, TJ (D)
Cassaro, Gianfranco (D)
Chadwick, Noah (D)	Chadwick, Noah (D)	Chadwick, Noah (D)
Dillingham, Nolan (D)	Dillingham, Nolan (D)	Dillingham, Nolan (D)
Fucso, John (D)
		Giordano, Mark (D)	Giordano, Mark (D)
		Hellickson, Matt (D)
		Klingberg, John (D)	Klingberg, John (D)
	Kokkonen, Mikko (D)	Kokkonen, Mikko (D)
Koster, Mike (D)
		Lagesson, William (D)
		Lajoie, Max (D)
	Leslie, Mazden (D)	Leslie, Mazden (D)
		Liljegren, Timothy (D)	Liljegren, Timothy (D)
		McCabe, Jake (D)	McCabe, Jake (D)
	Miller, Tommy (D)	Miller, Tommy (D)
Moore, Lucas (D)
		Muzzin, Jake (D)+	Muzzin, Jake (D)+
Niemela, Topi (D)	Niemela, Topi (D)	Niemela, Topi (D)
		Pietroniro, Matteo (D)
		Rielly, Morgan (D)	Rielly, Morgan (D)
		Rifai, Marshall (D)
Roy, Pier-Olivier (D)
Sova, Spencer (D)	Sova, Spencer (D)	Sova, Spencer (D)
Sundin, Albin (D)
		Timmins, Conor (D)	Timmins, Conor (D)+
Tychonick, Jonny (D)	Tychonick, Jonny (D)	Tychonick, Jonny (D)
	Villeneuve, William (D)	Villeneuve, William (D)
Walton, Pito (D)
-----​	-----​	-----​	-----​
Akhtyamov, Artur (G)
Cavallin, Luke (G)	Cavallin, Luke (G)	Cavallin, Luke (G)
Elias, Rastislav (G)
Elliott, Austin (G)
	Hildeby, Dennis (G)	Hildeby, Dennis (G)
		Jones, Martin (G)
		Murray, Matt (G)+	Murray, Matt (G)+
Peksa, Vyacheslav (G)	Peksa, Vyacheslav (G)	Peksa, Vyacheslav (G)
		Petruzzelli, Keith (G)
		Samsonov, Ilya (G)	Samsonov, Ilya (G)
St-Hilaire, Samuel (G)
		Woll, Joe (G)	Woll, Joe (G)
42	26	70	25

 

[Squiffy]

Less then $9000 in cap space lol.. well played Pridham.

 

[andora]

For those who followed camp was lafferty skating with tavares on a line early on?

 

[disgruntleddave]

For those who followed camp was lafferty skating with tavares on a line early on?

Yes. He had at least one game there.

 

[andora]

Yes. He had at least one game there.

Ok cool thx

 

[supermann_98]

Well let's be honest here. I am 1000% certain somebody would have taken Jones if it wasn't for that 100K payout claim clause.

He was really good this preseason.

He played well in a two games against the Belleville Senators and Laval Rockets. His body of work over the last 4-5 years is probably why he didn't get claimed.

 

[LeafSteel]

Maybe we can offer Matt Murray a job as Director of Pylon Deployment - MLSE Properties.

……. Or we can get Dubas to offer a 1st for him when he’s healed and feeling better. He did win a Stanley Cup in Pittsburgh dontchaknow?!?!?!

 

[Squiffy]

Maybe we can offer Matt Murray a job as Director of Pylon Deployment - MLSE Properties.

……. Or we can get Dubas to offer a 1st for him

There’s only one way off Robias Island, direct flight to MLSE management.

 

[justashadowof]

From opening night 2022-23, gone are:

Zach Ashton-Reece
Nick Aube-Kubel
Michael Bunting
Pierre Engvall
Justin Holl
Alex Kerfoot
Denis Malgin
Jake Muzzin
Rasmus Sandin
Matt Murray

50% turnover.

 

[ULF_55]

It honestly did feel like those waiver claims were deliberate, and it did make me question how Dubas was perceived by the other GM’s.

No way to prove anything but I’m relieved Dubas is gone, and we kept all our waived players.

Teams don't claim players they don't like.

If Leafs waived anything of value teams would have claimed them.

 

[Peasy]

From opening night 2022-23, gone are:

Zach Ashton-Reece
Nick Aube-Kubel
Michael Bunting
Pierre Engvall
Justin Holl
Alex Kerfoot
Denis Malgin
Jake Muzzin
Rasmus Sandin
Matt Murray

50% turnover.

Think theres only one name in there that will be greatly missed, and its ashamed its because he got injured.

 

[justashadowof]

I wonder if the timing of the Matt Murray operation announcement is because Murray held out a glimmer of hope that some organization would take a flyer on him. Sounds like this is a chronic problem he's looking to repair, probably something dating back as far as his Pittsburgh days when the decline set in. Best of luck to him. I believe they're still perfecting the surgical treatment of that type of problem. They made an utter mess of knees in the 1970s but now those knees can be brought back to some reasonable percentage of the original performance. Maybe these hips can be the same thing.

 

[ACC1224]

It honestly did feel like those waiver claims were deliberate, and it did make me question how Dubas was perceived by the other GM’s.

No way to prove anything but I’m relieved Dubas is gone, and we kept all our waived players.

How many Pens were claimed this year?

 

[The Masters]

https://x.com/MapleLeafs/status/1711476260843532683?s=20

 

[LeafSteel]

How many Pens were claimed this year?

Don't know and don't care.

I cheer for the Maple Leafs. Couldn't care less about Dubas or the Penguins.

 

[All Mod Cons]

It honestly did feel like those waiver claims were deliberate, and it did make me question how Dubas was perceived by the other GM’s.

No way to prove anything but I’m relieved Dubas is gone, and we kept all our waived players.

Absolutely. That's why you get guys like Hari Satteri claimed.

 

[LeafSteel]

Absolutely. That's why you get guys like Hari Satteri claimed.

That was the one that made me wonder that the Hell was going on.

 

[ACC1224]

Don't know and don't care.

I cheer for the Maple Leafs. Couldn't care less about Dubas or the Penguins.

You talked about Dubas in the post I replied to