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Aussie Bruin

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I suspect you will, indeed, be surprised.

In important respects, history is biography.

Captain Obvious says: If you want to know why a political figure (or anyone else) is the way they are, all you have to do is look at their childhood. It's all there, for good or ill.

Most modern academic historians will dispute this, because the prevailing view in the scholarly world is heavily influenced by various forms of historical determinism or materialism, which state that the great trends and currents of history are vast and old and unstoppable and largely beyond the ability of any one person or group to influence much one way or the other. From that point of view biography is history only in so much as it tells the story of a particular individual, but little more because, so the argument goes, even the great and the good are largely beholden to their circumstances and the socio-economic and other forces that really drive society and events. History then, so they say, is impersonal, and the old 'great man' theory is very much out of fashion.

Personally I think you need both to truly explain how things have happened the way they did - both the broader themes and forces, but also an understanding of the character, abilities and choices of particular important people. If for example the general form of the American presidency was always determined to develop in a certain way, nonetheless I think it matters that the first president was Washington and not, say, a more Napoleon-esque figure. The template for how one should conduct themselves as president, and how they should leave it, was set right from the start, and I think that had an influence that has endured. Equally if the US was destined for independence, and it probably was, a lesser general than Washington may have seen the colonies fail at the first attempt, and then who knows how things would ultimately have played out? In sum, ideally you need to approach things from as many angles as possible.
 

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Most modern academic historians will dispute this, because the prevailing view in the scholarly world is heavily influenced by various forms of historical determinism or materialism, which state that the great trends and currents of history are vast and old and unstoppable and largely beyond the ability of any one person or group to influence much one way or the other. From that point of view biography is history only in so much as it tells the story of a particular individual, but little more because, so the argument goes, even the great and the good are largely beholden to their circumstances and the socio-economic and other forces that really drive society and events. History then, so they say, is impersonal, and the old 'great man' theory is very much out of fashion.

Personally I think you need both to truly explain how things have happened the way they did - both the broader themes and forces, but also an understanding of the character, abilities and choices of particular important people. If for example the general form of the American presidency was always determined to develop in a certain way, nonetheless I think it matters that the first president was Washington and not, say, a more Napoleon-esque figure. The template for how one should conduct themselves as president, and how they should leave it, was set right from the start, and I think that had an influence that has endured. Equally if the US was destined for independence, and it probably was, a lesser general than Washington may have seen the colonies fail at the first attempt, and then who knows how things would ultimately have played out? In sum, ideally you need to approach things from as many angles as possible.

I agree.

A great man meets the sweep of history. Both matter.

One can say the American Revolution was "inevitable." One cannot say the same regarding the advent of Washington, and his example to posterity. If there had been no Washington, the United States we have, if we had them at all, might look very different.

BTW, I was also multiverse before multiverse was cool. That is, I believe countless probable worlds, histories, and probable "you's" are a thing. No proof. Just an opinion.

 

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My turn for snow soon :cold:

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1. If you had to live with having someone else's face as your own for the rest of your life, whose would it be?
My mom’s.

2. In light of the recent job/do it for free chatter - what is your current occupation?
Packaging Artwork Manager for a pharmaceutical company in Boston.

3. What did your parents do for a living?
Dad was a district sales manager for Firestone. Mom worked in the credit dept at Sears.

4. What is your favourite series of books?
Nancy Drew or Richard Ford’s Frank Bascombe series.

5. Name a movie that had an impact on you as a child - pure awe, fear, etc.
When we were kids (10, 8, 6) mom used to drop us off at the movie theater in Woonsocket every Saturday afternoon so she could have a couple hours peace. We never checked to see what was playing. One Saturday instead of a Disney feature with cartoons we got Tora Tora Tora!:laugh:
 

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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. If you had to live with having someone else's face as your own for the rest of your life, whose would it be?
2. In light of the recent job/do it for free chatter - what is your current occupation?
3. What did your parents do for a living?
4. What is your favourite series of books?
5. Name a movie that had an impact on you as a child - pure awe, fear, etc.
1. I thought Susan Dey back in her Partridge Family days was so beautiful. Nowadays I don't care about looks as much, I'd rather have say, Katie Sackoff's fitness!

2. Retired now. Initially worked as a nurse in the Cardiac ICU at Carney, then went back to school and worked at South Shore Hospital as a nurse anesthestist for the rest of my career finishing up at the Orthopedic Surgicenter in Hingham.

3. My dad was a design engineer, my mom was a nurse.

4. Favorite series as a kid was the Trixie Belden mystery series, think Nancy Drew, but more relatable. Still have the books.

5. I loved American Graffiti as a teen, had a big crush on Paul LeMat, who played John Milner. It got me into 50's music and the Beach Boys.
 

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They had 3 earthquakes in the OKC Metro last night. Mom didn’t feel them but the dog sure did.

4.2, 3.3 and 2.7.

I told my mom I’ll stick to needing an ark.
 
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1. I thought Susan Dey back in her Partridge Family days was so beautiful. Nowadays I don't care about looks as much, I'd rather have say, Katie Sackoff's fitness!

2. Retired now. Initially worked as a nurse in the Cardiac ICU at Carney, then went back to school and worked at South Shore Hospital as a nurse anesthestist for the rest of my career finishing up at the Orthopedic Surgicenter in Hingham.

3. My dad was a design engineer, my mom was a nurse.

4. Favorite series as a kid was the Trixie Belden mystery series, think Nancy Drew, but more relatable. Still have the books.

5. I loved American Graffiti as a teen, had a big crush on Paul LeMat, who played John Milner. It got me into 50's music and the Beach Boys.
I actually had American Graffiti in my answer but changed it before posting. That movie really had me day dreaming of living in that era and I absolutely love the movie and soundtrack to this day. I have no idea how many times I have watched it.
 

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I went to Xfinity to see about switching my cellular service to them from Verizon. I already had home internet with them.

The results:

Switched from $95 per month for a 4G data plan with Verizon, to $45 per month for unlimited data with Xfinity.

She also knocked $50 per month off my home internet for the next 12 months.

My total monthly will now be $5 less per month for internet/mobile combined than what I was paying just for internet. Plus I now have unlimited data. 🤯

OH..... and since I brought my existing phone on the plan, which was actually compatible to do....xfinity is sending me a $100 prepaid card.

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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. If you had to live with having someone else's face as your own for the rest of your life, whose would it be?
2. In light of the recent job/do it for free chatter - what is your current occupation?
3. What did your parents do for a living?
4. What is your favourite series of books?
5. Name a movie that had an impact on you as a child - pure awe, fear, etc.


you could marry me
1. Dame Judi Dench...as long as I get her talent too. We already match hair and eyes.
2. Retired....35 years data entry clerk/ call center operator
3. Dad - telephone company (worked maintenance). Mom - stay at home mom
4. Walter Farley Black Stallion books and anything Marguerite Henry....King of the Wind my favorite
5. The Ten Commandments - all those horses!! As a teenager - Ben Hur (Charleston Heston on the raft....when I realized why girls liked boys!!)
 

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1. Dame Judi Dench...as long as I get her talent too. We already match hair and eyes.
2. Retired....35 years data entry clerk/ call center operator
3. Dad - telephone company (worked maintenance). Mom - stay at home mom
4. Walter Farley Black Stallion books and anything Marguerite Henry....King of the Wind my favorite
5. The Ten Commandments - all those horses!! As a teenager - Ben Hur (Charleston Heston on the raft....when I realized why girls liked boys!!)
This is awesome
 
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1. Chris Hemsworth's would do nicely. But then right now I have an idea to kind of just blend into the background that I like and is quite useful, and that wouldn't be so possible with a face like that, so maybe not!

2. Intelligence analyst.

3. My father processed claims and related matters for an insurance company, my mother stayed home and raised us kids, as was done in the 'old days'.

4. When I was young there was a series by an Australian author about a group of teenagers who worked part-time jobs as a collective and got themselves into mysteries and crime-solving along the way. A bit Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew but more modern and Australianised. Always enjoyed those.

5. I was just the right age for the Disney revival and The Lion King was such a great mix of exciting and fun and scary and sad. That was definitely a favorite that long made an impression.
 

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2 houses we saw today were…small. One was dated but had some more potential, although it got ZERO sunlight so everything on every inch of the lot was slippery moss. The other was super nice inside and out, but very small

I’m getting tired of realtors listing basements as sq footage. Today there was actually a 2 bedroom house with a finished basement, that was listed a 3 bedroom with a good 600 extra sq ft from the basement.

All for half a million, with dumb high taxes and dumb high interest
 

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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. If you had to live with having someone else's face as your own for the rest of your life, whose would it be?
I'd rather die.
2. In light of the recent job/do it for free chatter - what is your current occupation?
Journeyman Electrician represented by the good folks of International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 103. (see our ad on the ice behind the goal line at TD Garden)
3. What did your parents do for a living?
My father was a hoisting engineer (crane/heavy equipment operator) I.U.O.E. Local 4. Mom was a homemaker.
4. What is your favourite series of books?
Don't have a favorite 'series.' My favorite books are:

The Holy Bible (Douay-Rheims translation).
The Godfather.
Black Hawk Down.
The Shining.
Different Seasons.

5. Name a movie that had an impact on you as a child - pure awe, fear, etc.
My parents took me to see "The Empire Strikes Back" on my sixth birthday and it's been my favorite movie ever since. Does that count?
you could marry me
Sorry, bruh. I'm taken.
 
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