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They look at his size and think "power forward". He's far from a prototypical "power forward".
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They look at his size and think "power forward". He's far from a prototypical "power forward".
Who is Neil blocking? We definitely don't have any prospects who can fill his role.
I personally like the fact that prospects have to prove they're ready and then compete against vets for ice time.
It's not like we're keeping guys in the AHL who are ready to step up and make our team better now.
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That's pretty good but I don't think the Jackets need Spezza
Not sure they can afford to let Johnson go either
Not sure they can afford to let Johnson go either
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Sorta, I'm still confused as to why DaCosta was never called back up, he was a huge part of us going 3-0 before the break.
Pretty much anyone of our bigger, less skilled prospects could come up and fill Neil's role. Robinson, Cowick, Dizzy could all come up an be the "energy" guy that can punch people and put up like 15 points. Honestly I think these guys would probably be a direct upgrade from Neil.
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Neil just needs to be used like Thornton in Boston, 7-9 mins a night. When he's playing 13-15 mins a night he's blocking someone more useful from 6 mins a night.
when he was with the avs and early part of st louis he would go to the dirty areas. Ie infront of the net that is where we need someone who as skill not a neil.
People are over analyzing stewart but he is a perfect for a team who doesnt have someone who stands infront of the net
jacket won't trade one of their best players in johnson and anisimov isnt a guy i dont think we would target
i suspect the deal would be something like Jenner + wennberg/rychel for spezza
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what a terrible comparison
they arent anywhere near the same and play their best at different parts of the ice. He is a lot closer to ryan then spezza
edit: actually stone might be an even better comparison but stewart is a better skater but probably less playmaking
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stone is an unknown i would like to see more finish from him so i rather not put all my eggs in one basket
I think have Stone Stewart and Ryan as wingers in our top 6 is a great step forward imo
Stewart on the Colorado team which gave him more space like ottawa would was a beast putting up 100 hits and scoring a ridiculous amount of goals from the dirty areas around the net
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There's a reason these guys never saw a call up this past season. I think it's naive to believe these guys are capable of filling Neil's role.
Do you really think guys like Turris and Karlsson would prefer to have any of the players you listed as the tough presence on the team? Our players appreciate that Neil has their back.
We can't just start swapping out veterans for our bottom 6 AHL players unless we want to play for a lottery pick.
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What makes you think that?
I see a big guy who doesn't hit all that much, doesn't compete, doesn't score enough and doesn't add anything in other areas of the ice. (Go ask anyone about his defensive play, if you were frustrated with Spezza's defensive work, you'll have a ball with this guy)
You'll get a 5 or 6 game spurt from time to time where he will score consistently then disappear for the next dozen. We don't need players like that. We need players with high motor. Stewart is not that.
Greening can fill Neil's role. It's about all he's good for these days. Actually, if you want, Neil can fill Neil's role. By you know, actually playing 5-7 minutes a night in a 4th line situation. One where he'll have energy and jam but we aren't stuck playing him 15+ mins a night for some illogical and boarderline insane reason.
As much as I want the bottom 6 to get shuffled, I don't see it happening just yet.
I think Condra will be the first casualty, though he would be 2nd on my list, but Greening isn't moving anywhere.
Like previously mentioned, Neil could still be valuable on the 4th line under 10 minutes.
Smith could probably play wing and contribute 35 points or so which is good production with his defensive game.
Smith-Zibanejad-Stone would be a pretty good line IMO, but then the 4th would just be in shambles.
I think Condra will be the first casualty, though he would be 2nd on my list, but Greening isn't moving anywhere.
Like previously mentioned, Neil could still be valuable on the 4th line under 10 minutes.
Smith could probably play wing and contribute 35 points or so which is good production with his defensive game.
Smith-Zibanejad-Stone would be a pretty good line IMO, but then the 4th would just be in shambles.
Any of those guys could defend our star players just as well as Neil while being a better hockey player, I also doubt Turris and co. really care all that much about having a goon "protect" them.
As far as our veterans if they can't play NHL level hockey anymore then yes, I do think they should be swapped out with the younger, better AHL guys.
There are so many good wingers at the top of this draft. What do people think about trading up to snag a high end winger to develeop along side Turris or Lazar? One of Virtanen, Nylander, Ritchie, Ehlers, Perlini or Fabbri would all be great options if Murray can wheel his way into the top 6-12 range.
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