Off-Season Roster Thread #2 -- Nothing to do but wait
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I think he's done but I could be wrong so I'd consider signing him to a Wayne Simmonds type contract. If he has anything left he's the kind of player I want on team.
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The postseason results have fallen off the last three years more as a result of personnel loss than coaching or playing/tactical approach.
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I think he's done but I could be wrong so I'd consider signing him to a Wayne Simmonds type contract. If he has anything left he's the kind of player I want on team.
Changes coming in Bruinsville
The Bruins’ talent drain rests solely on Don Sweeney and Cam Neely - The Boston Globe
The postseason results have fallen off the last three years more as a result of personnel loss than coaching or playing/tactical approach.
I think he's done but I could be wrong so I'd consider signing him to a Wayne Simmonds type contract. If he has anything left he's the kind of player I want on team.
He might be motivated to rebound from what happened to him this year. But is there anything left there?
Fjordsen
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Adam Kimelman:
Buffalo will be looking for a goalie in the future free agent market. Kimelman suggested that Ville Husso could be an option.
Sabres second priority is a top-6 forward. Options are Philip Forsberg, Johnny Gaudreau and Nazem Kadri.
Buffalo will be looking for a goalie in the future free agent market. Kimelman suggested that Ville Husso could be an option.
Sabres second priority is a top-6 forward. Options are Philip Forsberg, Johnny Gaudreau and Nazem Kadri.
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Good lord I hope we aren’t looking at Gaudreau or Kadri. Forsberg is obviously interesting. Next year’s UFA class is a lot more interesting if we plan on signing a big name forward long term.
I wouldn't expect any of this too be true. Kimelman and Morreale are really just PR guys who write articles for the casual fan on the NHL website. They don't really ever give anything that would be deemed insider info and the articles seem to be more "GM for a day" type. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if that's the exact same thing they wrote for NJ, DET and OTT.
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Buffalo has no need to go out sign a UFA to high money. Theyare fine resigning Olofsson.
I'm not sure I get Forsberg or Gaudreau as targets given winger is the strength of our system, but alright. I would think other moves would have to follow this or you'll be blocking guys like Quinn and Peterka.
Honestly in a vaccum Kadri makes some sense. He's an established top 6 vet center. He can play a variety of roles that the young guys in our organization are probably not up for at this point. He also adds that tough to play against dimension that our team doesn't seem to have all that much of. It all comes down to cost. Next years UFA class looks great for now, but teams aren't usually in the business of letting great players get away and if they won't re-sign them they tend to move them to a team that will. You'll see that list dwindle in the coming months year after year the same story unfolds.
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Well, he seems to be just guessing, maybe Husso makes sense, but I don’t see Gaudreau, Kadri or Forsberg in Buffalo.
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you can name a lot of goalies who make sense since we are at the corner of screwed and nowhere.
this off-season I expect to hear our name attached to everyone because We have all the money and agents will push for the media to include us in stuff to try to drive up price.
I expect to ”lose out” on a bunch of guys we were never in on
this off-season I expect to hear our name attached to everyone because We have all the money and agents will push for the media to include us in stuff to try to drive up price.
I expect to ”lose out” on a bunch of guys we were never in on
Waiting for the UFA market for a goalie would be like playing a game of musical chairs with one leg. The demand exceeds supply and we are one of the least desirable markets to play in.
Djp
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because he’s spit balling.
given buffalo drafted 6 wingers in the top 65 of the last 2 drafts. They aren’t in the market for a big name winger who wants long term.
resigning Olofsson is just 4-5 yrs. Peterka and Quinn would be on drudge contracts.
sure if Olofsson says he’s going to free agency thrn buffalo coukd be in the market …but still only in a 4 yr max range.
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Djp
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buffalo current team finished at a 100 point pace. They are not in some pressure/ panic mode next season.
One of the reasons to try to pluck Letang from Pittsburgh (or Bergeron from Boston) is it knocks those teams out of the top 8 and puts us in.
Insane money for 2 seasons for one of those two means playoffs for us.
Each has spent their entire career with the one team and has cups with that team so it seems so unlikely.
But...
Bergeron has been underpaid his entire career. We can pay him 2x10. What other team could/would. Letang 2x8.
Both of those deals would be smarter/better than the Taylor Hall abomination.
Unlikely. Worth a phone call. Even if it's just to make it more expensive to be re-signed or sign elsewhere.
Jim Bob
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Chad D said that people around the league think the Sabres have a lot of interest in PK Subban and might be the favorites to sign him.
He also said that he has heard the Sabres are interested in Jack Campbell if he hits UFA and they haven’t solved their goaltending issue by then.
For PK, not more than 3 years and not more than 2.5 million. He isn't the guy to throw stupid money at. Let him pick Buffalo instead of the other way around.
I would rather get EJ from Colorado for a year, it wouldn't cost us anything. PK is an 16 to 18 minute a night guy who we aren't going to use on PP or PK. At least EJ is a PK lock.
PK at 2x2 would be a no brainer I guess. It would be a locker room / vibes add and if that doesn't get too expensive thats fine.
I would rather get EJ from Colorado for a year, it wouldn't cost us anything. PK is an 16 to 18 minute a night guy who we aren't going to use on PP or PK. At least EJ is a PK lock.
PK at 2x2 would be a no brainer I guess. It would be a locker room / vibes add and if that doesn't get too expensive thats fine.
Jim Bob
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Given the Sabres current cap situation, I doubt outbidding the market for PK Subban on a 1 or 2 year deal will be an issue. There is no reason to not offer him 1x5 or 2x4 if that is what it takes to get the deal done.
And as far as Erik Johnson goes, is Buffalo on his 19 team Trade To list?
Who can know these things. Maybe Okposo can make a phone call. Maybe tack on a 1 year x 3 million contract.
Joker is a better defenseman than Subban so I dont see how paying Subban more than Joker is helpful, on a free agent contract. EJ already has a contract in place.
PK hasn't been a top pair defenseman in 4 seasons. Last year he was bad. 3rd pairing guy who isn't that good defensively. I dont see how he is a good fit. There are better veteran D adds. If he had injury issues maybe that can explain why he was awful last year.
Jim Bob
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You can argue whether PK Subban has enough game left to improve the Sabres defense group.
But, I don't see any issue short term or long term to giving him a UFA contract that is more than Jokiharju is making. They are pros. They know that UFA years are more expensive than RFA years for comparable players. That is just how things work.
And we know the Sabres place a high value in how a guy fits in the locker room. With how well Malcolm has fit in, you have to think that Adams has a lot of confidence that PK would be a great fit in that regard.
Thats what it would be. If he makes the locker room better.
We know Pysyk made the locker room better because Adams and Granato said so a thousand times. But like Hino he was a moneyball kind of signing and with the fancy stats crew in place that's what should be our m.o. in the next several years.
PK has made a lot of money in his career. If he wants to be part of this thing, 2x2 would be fine. If he is looking for the biggest paycheck he can find why do we have to be that team?
Jim Bob
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The Sabres have a ton of cap space and need to work really hard just to get to the cap floor.
Given that situation, I see no issue with giving a guy they want what it takes to sign him on a short term deal.
That applies to PK, Campbell, or anyone else they might target in UFA.
There is no reason to not sign a guy they want over AAV on a short term deal given the Sabres cap situation.
The bigger issue with any UFA signings will likely be how long players, especially a guy like Campbell, might want the deal to be.
Fjordsen
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Also, no one bothers you to make an trade after opening a free agency. If Adams wants Campbell or Husso why not try? Most teams simply won't be able to offer good terms to these goalies due to the cap limitation.
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Campbell/Husso + Anderson/DeSmith in Sabres
UPL + Subban in Amerks
I have no problem with PK Subban. I'm sure he himself understands that he is no longer the same player as before, and is unlikely to receive big money and term in the market. He doesn't need to play top pair because we have Dahlin. Let him compete with Joker for the place of the defenseman #4.
UPL + Subban in Amerks
I have no problem with PK Subban. I'm sure he himself understands that he is no longer the same player as before, and is unlikely to receive big money and term in the market. He doesn't need to play top pair because we have Dahlin. Let him compete with Joker for the place of the defenseman #4.
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