Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Madness the 15th: How's that dream job now, Farrell?

[canucksfan]

Haha love what Gruber did with the chop

 

[cyris]

Gotta love the mock tomahawk chop!

 

[Muscles Glasses]

Classic KelGruber!

 

[theaub]

Haha love it, Alomar did it after Game 3 of course and then you had this after they won (0:42-ish)

Also appreciate what is like the worst music choice for a sporting highlight package at the end. I love those videos...without exaggeration I've probably watched the '92 and '93 ones 100 times each

 

[The Nemesis]

So game 3 is on tomorrow at 2pm ET/11am PT on East & Ontario, right?

My times were off earlier because I didn't realize I had sportsnet.ca keyed to Ontario for me (so the schedule was borked from my perspective)

 

[canucksfan]

Is that a Michael Bolton song in that video?

 

[Puckstuff]

Halladay or Dickey

Who has more left in the tank?
Who will have the better season in 2013?
As of today who is the better pitcher?
Including age, but not salary, who would you rather have on your team?

 

[The Nemesis]

Who has more left in the tank?
Who will have the better season in 2013?
As of today who is the better pitcher?
Including age, but not salary, who would you rather have on your team?

As of right now, there's not much reason I can think of not to answer "Dickey" to all of those questions.

 

[Paladin2799]

Who has more left in the tank?
Who will have the better season in 2013?
As of today who is the better pitcher?
Including age, but not salary, who would you rather have on your team?

Dickey
Dickey
Dickey
Dickey but way closer then the other ones.

I would love to put halladay back on this team, no matter what he is being paid. But I am way happy with Dickey.

 

[Puckstuff]

As of right now, there's not much reason I can think of not to answer "Dickey" to all of those questions.

I was thinking Dickey too but I'm admittaly bias towards my teams players so I wanted to see other posters opinions

 

[p.l.f.]

what was the score when sprague hit the hr?
was it a 3run homer?

 

[The Nemesis]

I was thinking Dickey too but I'm admittaly bias towards my teams players so I wanted to see other posters opinions

A year ago it would've been different, but Halladay's 2012 was a potentially very bad omen for him.

 

[cyris]

Who has more left in the tank?
Who will have the better season in 2013?
As of today who is the better pitcher?
Including age, but not salary, who would you rather have on your team?

Dickey(knuckleballer and no possibility of Tommy Johns)
toss up
Doc
Doc


I think this is alot closer than most others will say. Injuries lead to an off season for Doc last year. I think he will return to his regular self next year which was every bit as good as Dickey with a much longer history of success.

 

[Urban Explorer*]

what was the when sprague hit the hr?
was it a 3run homer?

4-3 Braves when Sprague hit a 2 run homer to make it 5-4 Jays

 

[cyris]

A year ago it would've been different, but Halladay's 2012 was a potentially very bad omen for him.

A year ago it wouldn't have even been a question. A decade of dominance vs. 2 decent years.

Until I see he cant return to form I still gotta go with Doc. And it isnt meant as any kind of shot against Dickey but he is being compared to a sure hall of famer.

 

[Urban Explorer*]

Do you guys think Doc is going to the hall? and if so do you think he would go in a blue jay?

 

[cyris]

Also, altho I do lean to Doc as the better pitcher their salary difference makes Dickey the better option for us.

 

[cyris]

Do you guys think Doc is going to the hall? and if so do you think he would go in a blue jay?

I think he will get in but he will have to wait a while for it to happen.
Like Jack Morris who we have talked about previously in this thread.

As for going in as a Jay, according to wikipedia it is no longer up to the player. They have input but the decision is ultimately made by the HoF. This was done in part because teams were offering large bonuses for players to choose their teams when they were inducted.

 

[p.l.f.]

4-3 Braves when Sprague hit a 2 run homer to make it 5-4 Jays

thx i missed it
huge

 

[Urban Explorer*]

I think he will get in but he will have to wait a while for it to happen.
Like Jack Morris who we have talked about previously in this thread.

As for going in as a Jay, according to wikipedia it is no longer up to the player. They have input but the decision is ultimately made by the HoF. This was done in part because teams were offering large bonuses for players to choose their teams when they were inducted.

Interesting. I'm surprised I never heard anything about this when Alomar went to the hall. Although I'm pretty sure he wanted to go in as a Jay. Do you think they powers that be would make him (doc) go in a Jay?

 

[Puckstuff]

Do you guys think Doc is going to the hall? and if so do you think he would go in a blue jay?

Halladay will go in to the hall as a Jay. The only thing that could change that is if he wins a world series with the Phillies but thats very unlikely considering the line up they have. It would be pretty crazy if the Jays won a world series while Halladay is still playing.

 

[cyris]

Interesting. I'm surprised I never heard anything about this when Alomar went to the hall. Although I'm pretty sure he wanted to go in as a Jay. Do you think they powers that be would make him (doc) go in a Jay?

Hard to say. It supposedly goes by where the player had their biggest impact. He was here longer and had prolonged success but he won a Cy Young with both teams and pitched his 2 no hitters with them.
If he wins a WS in Philly then it will probably tip things in their favor. But what Doc wants caries some weight to so who knows.

 

[cyris]

Halladay will go in to the hall as a Jay. The only thing that could change that is if he wins a world series with the Phillies but thats very unlikely considering the line up they have. It would be pretty crazy if the Jays won a world series while Halladay is still playing.

They have one of the best starting 3 anywhere in the league. I wouldn't call it very unlikely. No more than some other teams that won a WS.

 

[Puckstuff]

They have one of the best starting 3 anywhere in the league. I wouldn't call it very unlikely. No more than some other teams that won a WS.

their rotation is solid and potentially elite again but their lineup is horrible

 

[cyris]

their rotation is solid and potentially elite again but their lineup is horrible

No doubt. They aren't one of the favorites but that rotation could carry the team on its own.