I wonder if it says something about the Jays' ability to develop players when the only two Jays-drafted players in the starting line-up are considered the worst on the team?
Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Madness the 13th: Report - Dickey extended, trade just pending physicals
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JON PAUL MOROSI AND KEN ROSENTHAL 2:26pm
If R.A. Dickey agrees to a contract extension, he will be a Toronto Blue Jay.
The trade, according to the New York Post, would send Dickey, catcher Josh Thole and a non-elite prospect to the Jays, with the Mets receiving catcher Travis D’Arnaud, right-hander Noah Syndergaard, catcher John Buck and another non-elite prospect.
NYPost could be wrong
JON PAUL MOROSI AND KEN ROSENTHAL 2:26pm
If R.A. Dickey agrees to a contract extension, he will be a Toronto Blue Jay.
The trade, according to the New York Post, would send Dickey, catcher Josh Thole and a non-elite prospect to the Jays, with the Mets receiving catcher Travis D’Arnaud, right-hander Noah Syndergaard, catcher John Buck and another non-elite prospect.
NYPost could be wrong
Haha yeah I meant physical .. When you make the picture bigger, it's not that similar but on my phone when the picture was small - it looked very similar.
Thole is a much better hitter than Mathis. His career OBP is 75 points higher than Mathis. Thole's numbers versus lefties are similar to Mathis' career numbers but hopefully we can mostly get Thole in the lineup versus RHs.
The most important thing about Thole is he can catch Dickey. Something I would be quite doubtful of JPA being able to do.
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I think everybody aside from Wheeler is up for grabs in the Mets' system. Nobody screams elite in their affiliates aside from him.
I did say that was selling him short
Which stats do you want to use? War? Dwar? Fielding %? The fact is he's solid in all of them when compared to other catchers yet some random stat nobody other then serious sabermetric guys have heard of will be brought up as the end all of the discussion
Sabremetrics.
Even standard stats prove JPA as a below average catcher. Again, he has his power number, but other than that all his standard and advanced stats are way below average ( I refuse to use RBIs in this argument as they are heavily team-based).
I'm aware what it is, autocorrect isn't.
He had power, he drives runs in and he isn't nearly as bad defensively as he's been made out to be. Obviously he can be upgraded to but suggest a prospect catcher that will likely be converted to a 1B is the saviour over pathetic arencibia is Pejorative Slured
What makes you think Brian Wilson is done?
If Oliver only wants to play for Texas, then we might as well trade him and get something back, rather than letting him retire. Wouldn't hurt adding Janssen to the pen, it'd only help and adding an all-star closer would be great too. Not to mention that beard, I remember the first time I saw it I thought it was fake
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If the rumored price is true, we just got bent over. Unless that unnamed prospect is Harvey, which is very unlikely.
Adding Janssen to the pen? he has been there for years.What makes you think Brian Wilson is done?
If Oliver only wants to play for Texas, then we might as well trade him and get something back, rather than letting him retire. Wouldn't hurt adding Janssen to the pen, it'd only help and adding an all-star closer would be great too. Not to mention that beard, I remember the first time I saw it I thought it was fake
Luckily for us Alex Anthopolous has heard of them and he and his staff employ them when evaluating players along with traditional scouting to get the most knowledge possible about a player. Who wouldn't want as much information as possible about a player?
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JON PAUL MOROSI AND KEN ROSENTHAL 2:26pm
If R.A. Dickey agrees to a contract extension, he will be a Toronto Blue Jay.
The trade, according to the New York Post, would send Dickey, catcher Josh Thole and a non-elite prospect to the Jays, with the Mets receiving catcher Travis D’Arnaud, right-hander Noah Syndergaard, catcher John Buck and another non-elite prospect.
NYPost could be wrong
Wow. This hurts. Good on Rogers for even further opening the wallet. But damn, that's insane asset payment.
I'd have been perfectly fine with TDA (potentially Posey-lite?) for a durable Cy Young winner. But Syn added hurts.
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At this point I wounder what it would cost to buy low on Tim Lincecum and throw him in the Pen or use him for Spot Starts. Given that his delivery will ensure he is never dominant again I still think some team could find some use for him. If the Dickey deal falls through this still may be an option for the 5th/6th starter
Eyedea
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Well... Lawrie developed in the Jays system as a 3rd basemen. Casey Janssen has been our most reliable bullpen arm for a few seasons now. Ricky took a long time developing, and while he did struggle last year, I still think he can be a solid middle of the rotation starter.
Also maybe it shows Pittsburgh inability to develop players since Jose broke out with the Jays?
So basically this cancels out the prospect saving in the Reyes, Johnsson, etc trade. When you combine both trades, it looks more reasonable I guess.
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