Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season IV: Off-season progression! (Lockout over: Jays acquire Chapman for 4 prospects!)

[GreytWun]

Not a fan of Villar. He wasn’t very good when he was here previously. Hopefully this means a trade is on the horizon otherwise disappointing.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Wasn't Kikuchi the one who has problems with hard contact? If so, isn't that going to be a problem for us?

 

[jcollins]

So how is Pearson best used? Stretched out in AAA or hitting his innings limit as a multi inning reliever?

 

[canucksfan]

So how is Pearson best used? Stretched out in AAA or hitting his innings limit as a multi inning reliever?

I believe he's best used stretched out in AAA.

 

[phillipmike]

Wagner says the Jays will add a big bat and the names he hears a lot is Ramirez. With Ramirez being unlikely they like Chapman and Schwarber is another name that keeps coming up.

Blair “everyone knows that Jose Ramirez is the Jays number one target”

“Maybe plan B is Chapman and then sign Schwarber to give you the left bat”

 

[djdev]

Wagner says the Jays will add a big bat and the names he hears a lot is Ramirez. With Ramirez being unlikely they like Chapman and Schwarber is another name that keeps coming up.

Blair “everyone knows that Jose Ramirez is the Jays number one target”

“Maybe plan B is Chapman and then sign Schwarber to give you the left bat”

ye maybe they will start using the DH in the more traditional way going forward as opposed to the "rest day" way they have been.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Trade for Chapman and Marte. Would probably be cheaper than Ramirez. We aren't getting Ramirez without giving up Moreno, which should be a non-starter.

 

[GoonieFace]

For the longest time, every time I read someone saying trade for Chapman, I thought they were talking about Aroldis.

Matt Chapman would be a great get, really want Ramirez though, even if it might cost Moreno.

 

[GreytWun]

 

[djdev]

Trade for Chapman and Marte. Would probably be cheaper than Ramirez. We aren't getting Ramirez without giving up Moreno, which should be a non-starter.

not sure i agree with that, they traded carrasco and lindor for less than what a moreno package would likely be. i think 2 of our top 6 prospects(not including moreno) someone like gurriel and another serviceable player is right.

 

[as Pure as Evil]

so much for chapman's cost being low. my bad for assuming

 

[as Pure as Evil]

for a deeper dive in kikuchi's pitching incase some want a better look

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/yusei-kikuchi-579328?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

 

[djdev]

kikuchi is odd, it seems like he uses his worst pitch the most and his best pitches the least lol. i think our pitcher whisperer can have a field day with this guy.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Morgs]

1 year of Bassitt for a Hoglund-type prospect seems... steep?

 

[Canada4Gold]

Wagner says the Jays will add a big bat and the names he hears a lot is Ramirez. With Ramirez being unlikely they like Chapman and Schwarber is another name that keeps coming up.

Blair “everyone knows that Jose Ramirez is the Jays number one target”

“Maybe plan B is Chapman and then sign Schwarber to give you the left bat”

Chapman and Schwarber would be very cool.

 

[djdev]

1 year of Bassitt for a Hoglund-type prospect seems... steep?

seems like they are in a bit of panic mode to win with some of those huge contracts they have given out lately, and sherzer is gonna 38 in july so most likely they see these next few years as their best chance at a WS

 

[phillipmike]

1 year of Bassitt for a Hoglund-type prospect seems... steep?

My thoughts as well and Olier isnt bad either. AAA starter, sub 3 ERA with respectable peripherals. A similar return from the Jays would be Hoglund and Hatch/Logue. I rather spend the money on Kikuchi and keep the prospects.

 

[phillipmike]

Looks like the dam is bring tonight.

Edit: Kimbrel trade has been rumored for months. Would gladly move Grichuk for Kimbrel as they need a CF. If they need a middle infielder to replace Madrigal, perhaps Otto Lopez can be had.

 

[Morgs]

seems like they are in a bit of panic mode to win with some of those huge contracts they have given out lately, and sherzer is gonna 38 in july so most likely they see these next few years as their best chance at a WS

He's really good, but trading that type of prospect for 1 year of guy who's home/road splits are pretty massive due to his home park being one of the best pitching parks in the league just seems bad.

Just Mets being Mets, tbh.

 

[canucksfan]

seems like they are in a bit of panic mode to win with some of those huge contracts they have given out lately, and sherzer is gonna 38 in july so most likely they see these next few years as their best chance at a WS

And they likely miss the playoffs again

 

[djdev]

He's really good, but trading that type of prospect for 1 year of guy who's home/road splits are pretty massive due to his home park being one of the best pitching parks in the league just seems bad.

Just Mets being Mets, tbh.

yep, epitome of dysfunction

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[phillipmike]

 

[canucksfan]

Things are speeding up quickly