Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)
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Hennessy
Ye Jacobites, by name
Not sure how unusual this is - certainly at least a few teams have it covered - but the Colorado Avalanche (minus Nordiques) have shared at least one goalie with every team in the league save Vegas (and Hutchinson played for the Knights' AHL squad, fwiw).
Again, maybe not jaw-dropping, but I thought it was notable, especially for a team that's been around for only about 30 years.
Again, maybe not jaw-dropping, but I thought it was notable, especially for a team that's been around for only about 30 years.
FerrisRox
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Jumptheshark
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It was the year they had Yserman, Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Federov was bounced all over the roster and for awhile they had him, hull and someone who was on his last legs on the line. There was a joke on these boards that the line was getting paid more than entire team. They did not spend the entire year together but where together for a time on the 4th line. I think it was the year before the season that got cancelled and the Wings owner went all in to win. It was the line that was used as an example of why the NHL needed a cap. Wings had just spent insane money on their roster that year
seventieslord
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..... That can't be right, can it?
Edit: it's not, but it's apparently damn close. I found Joe Mullen, who achieved this shit 2 years before Babych.
I don't know if there's anyone else, as I stopped after Mullen (there might be a guy with 900-1030 GP as of 1998 who did it, but I doubt it).
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Hmm, Babych must have been the first defenseman then. I remember the Canuck broadcast making a minor deal about it when it happened but it’s been 25 years.
Yozhik v tumane
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@MS Babych isn’t the first defenseman either.
Bill Gadsby played 468 games with the Blackhawks, 457 with the Rangers, and 323 games with the Red Wings before retiring in 1966.
seventieslord
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I didn't even check gadsby! skipped right over him, thinking of him as a ranger/wing and not so much a hawk.
California produced more NHL Forwards (Roy Sommer) than Massachusetts from the 1977 NHL Draft.
Sommer was a HS Classmate of Tom Hanks.
Sommer was a HS Classmate of Tom Hanks.
John Bethel played 17 NHL games as a forward for the Jets and was drafted from Boston University where he somewhat famously won the national championship against Boston College.
The 1978 BU NCAA Champs were the only one of the three 70's Champions, who had a majority of the players from Massachusetts, dressed for that game.
Charlie Coyle is related to Tony Amonte and Bobby Sheehan.
seventieslord
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Staniowski
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MA was about to explode, but it was a few years away. The Orr craze led to many indoor arenas being built in New England in the late '60s and early '70s, the start of minor hockey programs, which produced a bunch of good players in the 1980s.
I graduated HS in 1973 in Greater Boston. There was talent then.
Mike O'Connell, Dick Lamby, Gary Burns, Jon Fontas from my Senior year made it
to the NHL. The next year Tom Rowe, Mike Fidler, Bobby Miller and Ed Walsh all made it.
Staniowski
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Yeah, I know...it's just that it really ramped up in the '80s.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the growth of hockey, building of arenas in Massachusetts, etc. during those years.
Regarding rinks, early 60's when I was in 2-6th grade, there weren't lots of rinks outside of the larger cities when Orr came in 1966-67.
The impact within 5 years can be illustrated by the Regional HS League my HS played in, one of the 3 best in Mass.
When Orr arrived, only town had an indoor rink was Melrose and Belmont had an outdoor rink at Belmont Hill. When I graduated HS in '73, Belmont, Watertown. Woburn, Burlington, Stoneham built indoor rinks or had plans to build and did. So The Middlesex League went from 1 indoor rink to 6. That was the Orr impact
illustrated in one Regional League.
Other than Watertown, all the other towns listed produced multiple NHL players
or draft picks. Melrose (Paul Hurley. Andy Brickley, Conor Sheary), Belmont (Bob McManama, Paul Mara, Patrick Rismiller), Burlington (Mark Fusco, Bobby Jay, Tom Barrasso, Jay Pandolfo) Stoneham (Frank Simonetti, Sam Colangelo), Woburn (John Carter)
The Orr boom created an era where Massachusetts was the top hockey state in the US, better than Minnesota and Michigan.
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tarheelhockey
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As noted on the main board — last night, Buffalo became the first team ever to score a goal while having 0 shots in a period.
The same play featured the mega-obscure awarding of a goal to a player who never touched the puck at all. And to put the cherry on top, it was also a hat trick goal!
The circumstance involved an empty net, a Sabres player shooting the length of the ice but missing, and another Sabres player being tripped while chasing the loose puck with a clear lane to the net.
Awarded goals happen from time to time, but it takes a very specific set of circumstances for a team to get completely shut out for shots in the period, but also win the game so they get the ENG opportunity, and then have the awarded goal happen.
Official NHL records show two other instances of scoring a goal with 0 shots in a period, but both are scorekeeping errors — OT goals which were scored on ordinary shots but evidently the scorekeeper forgot to update the shot total to include the final shot.
The same play featured the mega-obscure awarding of a goal to a player who never touched the puck at all. And to put the cherry on top, it was also a hat trick goal!
The circumstance involved an empty net, a Sabres player shooting the length of the ice but missing, and another Sabres player being tripped while chasing the loose puck with a clear lane to the net.
Awarded goals happen from time to time, but it takes a very specific set of circumstances for a team to get completely shut out for shots in the period, but also win the game so they get the ENG opportunity, and then have the awarded goal happen.
Official NHL records show two other instances of scoring a goal with 0 shots in a period, but both are scorekeeping errors — OT goals which were scored on ordinary shots but evidently the scorekeeper forgot to update the shot total to include the final shot.
Crosby2010
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Maybe not obscure, but in the famous Gretzky/McCreary hit in 1981 it looks like the teams are playing 4-on-4 so my guess is the hit comes in the 3rd period after each team is in the box for a roughing penalty. Gretzky had three points already in this game. But what I found strange is that McCreary who is a winger is playing way back at his own blue line almost as if he is a stay at home defenseman. He is way out of position as he probably should have been in the Oilers end at the time as the puck had just come out of there. Either way, big hit but I honestly don't think he should have been there. Could have been a line change, who knows. But a rare time Gretzky didn't have his head up.
Famously thought to be the last shift McCreary ever played, but it wasn't. He played 10 more games in the NHL, one more against the Oilers again that season
Famously thought to be the last shift McCreary ever played, but it wasn't. He played 10 more games in the NHL, one more against the Oilers again that season
CaptBrannigan
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As a little extra detail on this one, normally awarded goals are given to the last player on the scoring team that touches the puck.As noted on the main board — last night, Buffalo became the first team ever to score a goal while having 0 shots in a period.
The same play featured the mega-obscure awarding of a goal to a player who never touched the puck at all. And to put the cherry on top, it was also a hat trick goal!
The circumstance involved an empty net, a Sabres player shooting the length of the ice but missing, and another Sabres player being tripped while chasing the loose puck with a clear lane to the net.
Awarded goals happen from time to time, but it takes a very specific set of circumstances for a team to get completely shut out for shots in the period, but also win the game so they get the ENG opportunity, and then have the awarded goal happen.
Official NHL records show two other instances of scoring a goal with 0 shots in a period, but both are scorekeeping errors — OT goals which were scored on ordinary shots but evidently the scorekeeper forgot to update the shot total to include the final shot.
In this case, it was given to the fouled player (McLeod) instead of the last Sabre to touch the puck (Thompson).
I assume this is the standard procedure for these types of ENG penalty shot goals, this one made more special by completing a player’s first hat trick.
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