Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)

[Crosby2010]

Pete Mahovlich holds the Habs franchise record for assists in a single season with 82. Two things to consider here. Mahovlich had a much more wicked prime than we might remember. Secondly, the greatest franchise in hockey history and probably North American sports history outside of the Yankees never had someone else get more than that? That's surprising. Not even Lafleur. And there has been one 100 point season in Montreal since 1980 by a player. Hard to believe but it's true.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

10/28/2024 marked a rare “sports equinox” — a day featuring games from each of North America’s Big 4 sports leagues.

Starting Monday night, within a span of ~24 hours, the Knicks lost, the Yankees lost, the Giants lost, and the Rangers lost.

Would love to know the last time that happened to all four of a city’s teams.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

@pnep - do you have a way of generating a list that shows the win percentage of a team when the player is vs isn't in the lineup? Specifically I'm looking for an oddity - HOF players whose teams have a better win percentage in the games the players missed. I have a theory as to why this might be the case, but I want to gather more examples first. Currently I've identified Sidney Crosby, Denis Potvin and Steve Yzerman - are there others?

 

[reckoning]

Random statistic that probably means nothing, but I still thought was interesting:

Most points in a season by a player in games his team lost:

1. (89-90) Joe Sakic 69
2. (83-84) Mike Bullard 63
3. (84-85) Mario Lemieux 56
4. (92-93) Kelly Kisio 54
5. (85-86) Dale Hawerchuk 53
5. (92-93) Norm MacIver 53
7. (90-91) Joe Sakic 52
8. (92-93) Geoff Sanderson 51
9. (82-83) Ron Francis 50
9. (85-86) Bernie Nicholls 50

 

[pnep]

@pnep - do you have a way of generating a list that shows the win percentage of a team when the player is vs isn't in the lineup? Specifically I'm looking for an oddity - HOF players whose teams have a better win percentage in the games the players missed. I have a theory as to why this might be the case, but I want to gather more examples first. Currently I've identified Sidney Crosby, Denis Potvin and Steve Yzerman - are there others?

Win Percentage DIF. Of A Team When The Player Is VS Isn't In The Lineup (REG. Seasons 1917-2024)

Win Percentage DIF. Of A Team When The Player Is VS Isn't In The Lineup (REG. Seasons 1917-2024) Seasons when player played from 10% to 90% team games. ADJ_W = REG_WINS + OT_WINS ADJ_L = REG_LOSES + OT_LOSES ADJ_T = TIES + SH_WINS + SH_LOSES Skaters (REG. Seasons 1917-2024)...

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[carjackmalone]

Morris lukowich?

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

@pnep - do you have a way of generating a list that shows the win percentage of a team when the player is vs isn't in the lineup? Specifically I'm looking for an oddity - HOF players whose teams have a better win percentage in the games the players missed. I have a theory as to why this might be the case, but I want to gather more examples first. Currently I've identified Sidney Crosby, Denis Potvin and Steve Yzerman - are there others?

My theory is simply:

They missed more games when their teams were good, and they played more games when their teams were poor?

I think Crosby played all games in his rookie season, then missed a ton when the team was strong and Malkin could carried them. Yzerman was more healthy as a young star on the “Dead Things” and often hobbled by injury during their super stacked DPE teams. Potvin rarely missed games on the young, weak/emergent Islanders teams of the 70s, but did so more as a veteran defenseman on a dynasty.

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

Win Percentage DIF. Of A Team When The Player Is VS Isn't In The Lineup (REG. Seasons 1917-2024)

Win Percentage DIF. Of A Team When The Player Is VS Isn't In The Lineup (REG. Seasons 1917-2024) Seasons when player played from 10% to 90% team games. ADJ_W = REG_WINS + OT_WINS ADJ_L = REG_LOSES + OT_LOSES ADJ_T = TIES + SH_WINS + SH_LOSES Skaters (REG. Seasons 1917-2024)...

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Unless I’m missing something, I think Mark Recchi, Mike Gartner, and Jarome Iginla are the Hall of Fame skaters with the worst win-difference?

With Recchi and Gartner, I suppose they have in common that they aren’t high-end HoFers. Both had long, healthy careers. Recchi’s record might be affected by not being Mario Lemieux? And maybe by being a reliably healthy player on injury riddled teams?

Iginla also remained healthy for most of his career. 2006-07 he missed 12 games on a playoff bound team. Maybe 2012-13 with the Penguins hurts him, if he played games missing either Malkin or Crosby?

Billy Smith having the worst win-ratio by a HoF goalie makes a lot of sense to me. Iirc, he played more RS games in the 70s, and generally saved himself for the playoffs as his teams improved?