DickSmehlik
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I was just perusing Todd Krygier's stats on HockeyDB and noticed that the man liked to score 30 points (he put up exactly 30 points in 4 of his first 5 NHL seasons):
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In a similar vein, RNH has played the 3rd most games in an Oilers uniform. More than all but Ryan Smyth and Kevin Lowe. He should be the all time GP leader near the end of the 2026 season barring injury.
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A similar thing happened with Datsyuk. Back to back seasons of 87 points, followed by back to back seasons of 97 points. But I am sure there are ones that are more obscure and bizarre than this.
The Panther
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Edmonton Oilers' Zach Hyman is currently riding a 10-game home goal-scoring streak, matching Wayne Gretzky for the longest such in Oilers' history.
In Gretzky's case, it was Dec. 13th 1981 to Jan. 20th 1982 (includes, of course, the 50-in-39 game vs. Philly). What's crazy is that during these 10 games, Wayne scored 23 goals and 45 points!
Hyman's recent numbers are of course more modest, but still a pretty impressive streak.
In Gretzky's case, it was Dec. 13th 1981 to Jan. 20th 1982 (includes, of course, the 50-in-39 game vs. Philly). What's crazy is that during these 10 games, Wayne scored 23 goals and 45 points!
Hyman's recent numbers are of course more modest, but still a pretty impressive streak.
The Panther
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From 1983-84 through 1986-87, Jari Kurri's shooting percentage was 27.0%.
At the other end of the Finnish shooting scale, over the past two seasons, Jesse Puljujärvi has scored on 4.3% of his shots.
At the other end of the Finnish shooting scale, over the past two seasons, Jesse Puljujärvi has scored on 4.3% of his shots.
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Bill Goldsworthy had an impressive 15 goals the last 19 games of the 73-74 season with the Minnesota North Stars, in that same time period he had 0 assists, possibly the record(or at least post war-period) for the most consecutive goals without an assists?
The best that Wayne Bianchin could do, the man with the record for the highest ratio of goals to assists in a season, was 12 goals with no assists.
The best that Wayne Bianchin could do, the man with the record for the highest ratio of goals to assists in a season, was 12 goals with no assists.
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From 1943-44 through 1950-51, Maurice Richard scored 64% more goals than the #2 guy over this period, Bill Mosienko.
From 1980-81 to 1989-90, Wayne Gretzky's point total is 68.5% of Colorado / New Jersey's entire goal total for the decade. In 1981-82, Gretzky's point total was 88% of Colorado's entire goals total.
In the three consecutive seasons of 1975-76 through 1977-78, the Montreal Canadiens defence allowed 11% fewer goals than the #2 best team (the NY Islanders), and more than 48% fewer goals than Washington allowed. To put that another way, Ken Dryden's GAA was 2.08 and Bernie Wolfe's was 4.08. (One year after this, Wolfe, aged 27, retired from hockey completely and became a financial planner.)
From 1980-81 to 1989-90, Wayne Gretzky's point total is 68.5% of Colorado / New Jersey's entire goal total for the decade. In 1981-82, Gretzky's point total was 88% of Colorado's entire goals total.
In the three consecutive seasons of 1975-76 through 1977-78, the Montreal Canadiens defence allowed 11% fewer goals than the #2 best team (the NY Islanders), and more than 48% fewer goals than Washington allowed. To put that another way, Ken Dryden's GAA was 2.08 and Bernie Wolfe's was 4.08. (One year after this, Wolfe, aged 27, retired from hockey completely and became a financial planner.)
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One I thought might rival 15 straight goals without an assist would be Peter Bondra. I only could find an appleless stretch of 13 goals (in 10 games) in his 34-9-43 campaign of 1995 however.
Selänne tops out at 9 straight goals in 1992-93. Wendel Clark has a couple of streaks of 9 and one of 10 consecutive goals, but he’s also got a 14 game stretch without an assist in 1989-90.
I wonder if Reggie Leach has the playoff record? 13 straight goals without an assist during the 1975-76 playoffs.
Edit: I think 11 goals was the tallest assistless stretch I could find in Ovechkin’s scoring logs, however three or four times.
Selänne tops out at 9 straight goals in 1992-93. Wendel Clark has a couple of streaks of 9 and one of 10 consecutive goals, but he’s also got a 14 game stretch without an assist in 1989-90.
I wonder if Reggie Leach has the playoff record? 13 straight goals without an assist during the 1975-76 playoffs.
Edit: I think 11 goals was the tallest assistless stretch I could find in Ovechkin’s scoring logs, however three or four times.
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also Marek Svatoš
Marek Svatoš 2005-06 Game Log | Hockey-Reference.com
Gamelogs for Marek Svatoš for 2005-06
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and Gaye Stewart
Gaye Stewart 1945-46 Game Log | Hockey-Reference.com
Gamelogs for Gaye Stewart for 1945-46
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pre war-period:
Pit Lépine Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com
Checkout the latest stats of Pit Lépine. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, trade, draft, salary and more on Hockey-Reference.com
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22
1926-03-11 -- 1928-01-31
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pnep
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longest assist streak without scoring goal:
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78 AST
202 Games
1951-03-15 -- 1954-03-07
Forward:
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36 AST
53 Games
Jimmy Thomson Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com
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78 AST
202 Games
1951-03-15 -- 1954-03-07
Forward:
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Gamelogs for Henrik Sedin for 2017-18
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36 AST
53 Games
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I was just looking through the seasons with the most 130 point players since it looks like we are getting 3 this season and I found this. Here is a seasonal breakdown over 130 point scorers.
Original 6:
45-70: 0
Orr, Wayne and Mario:
71: 2
72: 1
73: 1
74: 1
75: 1
77: 1
78: 1
79: 2
80: 2
81: 3
82: 4
83: 1
84: 1
85: 3
86: 4
87: 1
88: 3
89: 4
90: 1
91: 2
92: 1
93: 6
94: 1
95 (lockout): 0
96: 2
Dead puck era:
97-22: 0
McDavid era:
23: 1
24: 3
The amazing thing to me is how we have a 26 season period from the end of the war without a single 130 point season, then we have 25 consecutive* seasons with a 130 point scorer followed by 26 consecutive seasons without a 130 point season. Always that 25 season period so now that we have started getting 130 point scorers again maybe it will stick around for longer then we might think?
Original 6:
45-70: 0
Orr, Wayne and Mario:
71: 2
72: 1
73: 1
74: 1
75: 1
77: 1
78: 1
79: 2
80: 2
81: 3
82: 4
83: 1
84: 1
85: 3
86: 4
87: 1
88: 3
89: 4
90: 1
91: 2
92: 1
93: 6
94: 1
95 (lockout): 0
96: 2
Dead puck era:
97-22: 0
McDavid era:
23: 1
24: 3
The amazing thing to me is how we have a 26 season period from the end of the war without a single 130 point season, then we have 25 consecutive* seasons with a 130 point scorer followed by 26 consecutive seasons without a 130 point season. Always that 25 season period so now that we have started getting 130 point scorers again maybe it will stick around for longer then we might think?
The Panther
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Not only scoring levels (obviously) but also number of games makes a big difference here.
If the 1942 - 1967 era had played 80 games, there is a small chance of a couple of 130-point seasons (maybe Beliveau in 1956, etc.). Esposito would have done it in 1969 if there had been 80 games. Fewer would have done it in 1993 with only 80 games, etc. (Of course your general point is still correct.)
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longest PIM streak without PTS:
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372 PIM
95 Games
1989-10-05 -- 1992-04-14
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372 PIM
95 Games
1989-10-05 -- 1992-04-14
TheStatican
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Coincidentally enough I recently conducted some research of my own on 130-point seasons, specifically looking at the performance of players in the first and second halves of those seasons. I added up their point totals for each half and looked into the increase or decrease in their production. In cases where players missed time this is not from the teams halfway point but rather the halfway point for the player. And where the number of games played was an odd number, I used the exact midpoint of the middle game e.g. if a player played in 79 games, the first half comprised their initial 39 games plus the first 30 minutes of their 40th game. Their second half numbers would then commence from the halfway mark of that 40th game until the end of the season. While more players experienced an increase (28) than those who saw a decrease (22), overall the numbers were relatively balanced, with a very slight almost negligible skew towards the negative(-0.3%). I was quite surprised to see the player at the very top, did not expect that.
Listed from largest increase to the largest decrease in scoring rate(by % change)
| Player | Season | Games | 1st Half | 2nd Half | | Points | Change % |
1 | Hull | 90-91 | 78 | 53 | 78 | +25 | 131 | 47.2% |
2 | Gretzky | 79-80 | 79 | 58 | 79 | +21 | 137 | 36.2% |
- | Yzerman | 92-93 | 84 | 58 | 79 | +21 | 137 | 36.2% |
4 | Gretzky | 80-81 | 80 | 70 | 94 | +24 | 164 | 34.3% |
5 | Nilsson | 80-81 | 80 | 56 | 75 | +19 | 131 | 33.9% |
6 | Lafleur | 77-78 | 78 | 57 | 75 | +18 | 132 | 31.6% |
7 | Gretzky | 90-91 | 78 | 73 | 90 | +17 | 163 | 23.3% |
8 | Coffey | 85-86 | 79 | 62 | 76 | +14 | 138 | 22.6% |
9 | Selanne | 92-93 | 84 | 60 | 72 | +12 | 132 | 20.0% |
10 | Maruk | 81-82 | 80 | 62 | 74 | +12 | 136 | 19.4% |
11 | Lemieux | 91-92 | 64 | 60 | 71 | +11 | 131 | 18.3% |
12 | Orr | 70-71 | 78 | 64 | 75 | +11 | 139 | 17.2% |
13 | Esposito | 72-73 | 78 | 60 | 70 | +10 | 130 | 16.7% |
14 | Dionne | 78-79 | 80 | 61 | 69 | +8 | 130 | 13.1% |
- | Hawerchuk | 84-85 | 80 | 61 | 69 | +8 | 130 | 13.1% |
16 | Lafleur | 76-77 | 80 | 64 | 72 | +8 | 136 | 12.5% |
17 | Lemieux | 85-86 | 79 | 67 | 74 | +7 | 141 | 10.4% |
18 | Lemieux | 87-88 | 77 | 80 | 88 | +8 | 168 | 10.0% |
- | Bossy | 81-82 | 80 | 70 | 77 | +7 | 147 | 10.0% |
20 | Turgeon | 92-93 | 83 | 63 | 69 | +6 | 132 | 9.5% |
21 | Gretzky | 85-86 | 80 | 103 | 112 | +9 | 215 | 8.7% |
22 | Gretzky | 82-83 | 80 | 95 | 101 | +6 | 196 | 6.3% |
23 | Oates | 92-93 | 84 | 69 | 73 | +4 | 142 | 5.8% |
24 | Lemieux | 92-93 | 60 | 78 | 82 | +4 | 160 | 5.1% |
25 | Kurri | 85-86 | 78 | 64 | 67 | +3 | 131 | 4.7% |
26 | Esposito | 70-71 | 78 | 75 | 77 | +2 | 152 | 2.7% |
27 | Stastny | 81-82 | 80 | 69 | 70 | +1 | 139 | 1.4% |
28 | McDavid | 22-23 | 82 | 76 | 77 | +1 | 153 | 1.3% |
29 | Gretzky | 81-82 | 80 | 108 | 104 | -4 | 212 | -3.7% |
30 | Gretzky | 87-88 | 64 | 76 | 73 | -3 | 149 | -3.9% |
31 | Esposito | 71-72 | 76 | 68 | 65 | -3 | 133 | -4.4% |
32 | Dionne | 80-81 | 80 | 70 | 65 | -5 | 135 | -7.1% |
33 | Gretzky | 88-89 | 78 | 88 | 80 | -8 | 168 | -9.1% |
34 | Yzerman | 88-89 | 80 | 82 | 73 | -9 | 155 | -11.0% |
35 | Gretzky | 86-87 | 79 | 97 | 86 | -11 | 183 | -11.3% |
36 | Lemieux | 88-89 | 76 | 106 | 93 | -13 | 199 | -12.3% |
37 | Gretzky | 89-90 | 73 | 76 | 66 | -10 | 142 | -13.2% |
38 | Gretzky | 83-84 | 74 | 110 | 95 | -15 | 205 | -13.6% |
39 | Trottier | 78-79 | 76 | 72 | 62 | -10 | 134 | -13.9% |
40 | Gretzky | 93-94 | 81 | 71 | 59 | -12 | 130 | -16.9% |
41 | Lafontaine | 92-93 | 84 | 81 | 67 | -14 | 148 | -17.3% |
42 | Gretzky | 84-85 | 80 | 115 | 93 | -22 | 208 | -19.1% |
43 | Orr | 74-75 | 80 | 75 | 60 | -15 | 135 | -20.0% |
44 | Jagr | 95-96 | 82 | 84 | 65 | -19 | 149 | -22.6% |
45 | Savard | 87-88 | 80 | 74 | 57 | -17 | 131 | -23.0% |
46 | Esposito | 73-74 | 78 | 83 | 62 | -21 | 145 | -25.3% |
47 | Nicholls | 88-89 | 79 | 86 | 64 | -22 | 150 | -25.6% |
48 | Lemieux | 95-96 | 70 | 93 | 68 | -25 | 161 | -26.9% |
49 | Kurri | 84-85 | 73 | 79 | 56 | -23 | 135 | -29.1% |
50 | Dionne | 79-80 | 80 | 83 | 54 | -29 | 137 | -34.9% |
| Totals | 3765 | 3752 | -0.3% |
pnep
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PTS streak without PIM:
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106 PTS
124 Games
1957-02-07 -- 1958-12-02
Games streak without PIM:
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188 Games
1965-02-13 -- 1968-11-30
Plus/Minus, "no Minus" Streak:
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+74
60 Games
1975-02-13 -- 1975-12-23
Plus/Minus, "no Plus" Streak:
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-72
38 Games
1975-02-01 -- 1975-11-05
longest Goal streak without GWG:
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67 Goals
114 Games
1983-02-28 -- 1984-12-02
Camille Henry Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com
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106 PTS
124 Games
1957-02-07 -- 1958-12-02
Games streak without PIM:
Val Fonteyne Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com
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188 Games
1965-02-13 -- 1968-11-30
Plus/Minus, "no Minus" Streak:
Bobby Clarke Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com
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+74
60 Games
1975-02-13 -- 1975-12-23
Plus/Minus, "no Plus" Streak:
Jack Lynch Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com
Checkout the latest stats of Jack Lynch. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, trade, draft, salary and more on Hockey-Reference.com
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-72
38 Games
1975-02-01 -- 1975-11-05
longest Goal streak without GWG:
Mike Bullard Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com
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67 Goals
114 Games
1983-02-28 -- 1984-12-02
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seventieslord
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When Red Kelly died in 2019 there was no longer anyone alive who had coached the Toronto Maple Leafs to a playoff series win. They held this dubious distinction for 4 years.
I can't imagine any other franchise (that had won a series before) had held this distinction for any length of time, let alone 4 years.
I can't imagine any other franchise (that had won a series before) had held this distinction for any length of time, let alone 4 years.
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pnep
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| Season | League | Team | # |
| 2022-23 | NHL | CAR | 3 |
| 2022-23 | NHL | VAN | 3 |
| 2021-22 | NHL | VEG | 3 |
| 2019-20 | NHL | NYR | 3 |
| 2013-14 | NHL | STL | 3 |
| 2010-11 | NHL | TBL | 3 |
| 2010-11 | NHL | WAS | 3 |
| 2007-08 | NHL | PIT | 3 |
| 2006-07 | NHL | MTL | 3 |
| 1992-93 | NHL | BUF | 3 |
| 1991-92 | NHL | BUF | 3 |
| 1987-88 | NHL | NJD | 3 |
| 1984-85 | NHL | QUE | 3 |
| 1981-82 | NHL | MTL | 3 |
| 1977-78 | NHL | BOS | 3 |
| 1974-75 | WHA | EDO | 3 |
| 1973-74 | WHA | QUN | 3 |
incl. total W for traded Goalies:
| Season | League | Team | # |
| 2022-23 | NHL | CAR | 3 |
| 2022-23 | NHL | VAN | 3 |
| 2022-23 | NHL | VEG | 3 |
| 2021-22 | NHL | DAL | 3 |
| 2021-22 | NHL | SJS | 3 |
| 2021-22 | NHL | VEG | 3 |
| 2019-20 | NHL | NYR | 3 |
| 2018-19 | NHL | PHI | 3 |
| 2015-16 | NHL | STL | 3 |
| 2013-14 | NHL | MIN | 3 |
| 2013-14 | NHL | NAS | 3 |
| 2010-11 | NHL | WAS | 3 |
| 2007-08 | NHL | PIT | 3 |
| 2006-07 | NHL | MTL | 3 |
| 2005-06 | NHL | OTT | 3 |
| 2003-04 | NHL | PHI | 3 |
| 2002-03 | NHL | STL | 3 |
| 2001-02 | NHL | TOR | 3 |
| 1999-00 | NHL | FLO | 3 |
| 1991-92 | NHL | BUF | 3 |
| 1988-89 | NHL | BUF | 3 |
| 1987-88 | NHL | NJD | 3 |
| 1985-86 | NHL | PHI | 3 |
| 1984-85 | NHL | QUE | 3 |
| 1981-82 | NHL | MTL | 3 |
| 1977-78 | NHL | BOS | 3 |
| 1977-78 | WHA | QUN | 3 |
| 1976-77 | WHA | EDO | 3 |
| 1975-76 | WHA | CLC | 3 |
| 1974-75 | NHL | BUF | 3 |
| 1974-75 | WHA | EDO | 3 |
| 1973-74 | WHA | EDO | 3 |
| 1973-74 | WHA | QUN | 3 |
| 1972-73 | NHL | BOS | 3 |
pnep
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longest Goals streak without PPG:
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114 Goals
526 Games
1982-11-23 -- 1989-10-17
Jim Peplinski Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com
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114 Goals
526 Games
1982-11-23 -- 1989-10-17
alko
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longest Goals streak without PPG:
Jim Peplinski Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Salary, Title | Hockey-Reference.com
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114 Goals
526 Games
1982-11-23 -- 1989-10-17
SHG : PPG Ratio is also interesting (8 : 5).
The Panther
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Of players who played at least 50% of a team's games, Canadian center Dave Bolland...
...has the unique distinction of being the worst 'minus' player ever (at a modest -7) on one of the best teams ever, the 2012-13 Chicago Blackhawks. No NHL-er has ever had a worse plus/minus on an equal or better team. (The caveats are that 2013 was only a 48-game season, and also D-man Sheldon Brookbank and forward Brandon Bollig were also 'minuses'.)
The only player vying with Bolland is the 'Grim Reaper', Stu Grimson, on the similarly powerful 1995-96 Red Wings. Grimson somehow went -10 in 56 games on a .799 team.
Bolland, Brookbank, Bollig (all Hawks '13) and Grimson (Red Wings '96) thus are the only four players in history to play 50% or more of the games for a .765 (by points-percentage) or better club and end up a 'minus'.
...has the unique distinction of being the worst 'minus' player ever (at a modest -7) on one of the best teams ever, the 2012-13 Chicago Blackhawks. No NHL-er has ever had a worse plus/minus on an equal or better team. (The caveats are that 2013 was only a 48-game season, and also D-man Sheldon Brookbank and forward Brandon Bollig were also 'minuses'.)
The only player vying with Bolland is the 'Grim Reaper', Stu Grimson, on the similarly powerful 1995-96 Red Wings. Grimson somehow went -10 in 56 games on a .799 team.
Bolland, Brookbank, Bollig (all Hawks '13) and Grimson (Red Wings '96) thus are the only four players in history to play 50% or more of the games for a .765 (by points-percentage) or better club and end up a 'minus'.
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Of players who played at least 50% of a team's games, Canadian center Dave Bolland...
...has the unique distinction of being the worst 'minus' player ever (at a modest -7) on one of the best teams ever, the 2012-13 Chicago Blackhawks. No NHL-er has ever had a worse plus/minus on an equal or better team. (The caveats are that 2013 was only a 48-game season, and also D-man Sheldon Brookbank and forward Brandon Bollig were also 'minuses'.)
The only player vying with Bolland is the 'Grim Reaper', Stu Grimson, on the similarly powerful 1995-96 Red Wings. Grimson somehow went -10 in 56 games on a .799 team.
Bolland, Brookbank, Bollig (all Hawks '13) and Grimson (Red Wings '96) thus are the only four players in history to play 50% or more of the games for a .765 (by points-percentage) or better club and end up a 'minus'.
And he scored the Stanley Cup winning goal that season in 2013 with a minute left in the game. Go figure!
Here is another stat. I was today years old when I realize Jiri Tlusty led the NHL in even strength goals in 2013. Must be that shortened season.
frisco
Some people claim that there's a woman to blame...
This season, there are no players in the top 20 in scoring in their age 22 seasons or younger. In 82-83, 11 of the top 20 scorers were age-22 or younger.
This season, there are 10 players in the top 50 in scoring that are age-31 or older. In 81-82, there were none.
My Best-Carey
This season, there are 10 players in the top 50 in scoring that are age-31 or older. In 81-82, there were none.
My Best-Carey
seventieslord
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....perhaps more impressively, Joe Thornton managed to be -10 on a .744 team and didn't even have to get into half their games to "amass" that total.
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