Post-Game Talk: NYR @ WSH Game I: An Implosion Of Modest Proportions

[Riverdale]

I don't mind losing if the referees didn't have to play such a hand in it. Do they rotate the refs every game?

Rangers couldn't capitalize on the PP. Some calls were weak though

 

[Kershaw]

well team traded gaborik to hand pick a team 'built to win in the playoffs'

still cant score in playoffs. Gaborik ppg vs. Caps last year.

Yes I'm still bitter.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

Now, I didn't get to watch the game, just listen, but I assume he was still being use on the powerplay to... you know, play offense.

That's obviously not his fault, but if Torts is being stupid, Girardi has to recognize that and tell Tortorella to take him off the powerplay

Pretty much. But the fact that he's being used on it tells you a lot about how things are ran there.

 

[nevesis]

Nash and Cally in front of the net on the PP. Moore's reviewed shot. Nash just missing the top corner. Nash with stickhandling in front of the net. Stepan's 3rd attempt after two blocks.

There were plenty. I didn't even list them all.

I disagree with you in saying Holtby outplayed Lundqvist. The Caps had MANY more quality scoring chances than we did, and Hank made saves on a majority of them. The goals that were scored were unfortunate, but they weren't blatant soft goals by any means.

Its less a matter of which goalie outplayed each other, and more the fact that our inept offense/power play can't put a puck in the net beyond a fluke bounce off the opponents skate.

 

[The Gloaming]

I miss Staal so bad. Still wearing his jersey to every game (and I have many others)

I'm a bit saddened how underrated he is by some people here

Our best defenseman by a mile.

 

[Tawnos]

Which brings me to the Moore non-goal. Apparently no one in Toronto reviewing maybe goals has ever taken a physics course. The puck was in Holtby's glove. Holtby's entire glove was in the net. Sam and Joe arguing that there was no definitive evidence that the puck crossed the line makes them look like a couple yokels for the second time tonight. Whatever the league thinks the call defies science and apparently one can conclude that Micheletti for one at the U. of Minnesota never took a physics course either. I wonder what Sam's excuse is.

You do realize that the guys in Toronto are only allowed visual evidence, right? If they see the puck go into Holtby's glove and then Holtby's glove was in the net: goal. That's not what happened. The puck was never in Holtby's glove until the play was over. It was in his pants.

A response to a rant.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Holtby should go buy a lottery ticket after that game with the luck he had. Crossbar, us missing the net every quality chance, taking that extra second to shoot and letting the Caps block it, and the no goal call that was probably a goal but no way of proving it. He was lucky. We were the better team for the second and third period. It just started snowballing. Lucky bounce for Ovechkin, breakaway that was a **** shot that Hank stops 9/10 times and then the weakest goal Hank as ever given up in the playoffs (token Jason Chimera goal).

It just goes to show how important Hank is. When he's not his best, we don't win. And it really is that cut and dry with this group.

Let's hope they come out on fire Saturday and catch the Caps by surprise.

 

[JohnC]

I don't see how people are complaining about Kreider. I thought he was one of the better players in the 3rd.

Definitely a good number of guys I'd put ahead of him on the "Who played badly" list

 

[NHRangerfan]

A rant.

FWIW the Asham penalty was ********. It led to Washington's first goal. Sometimes I find our broadcasting team to be very annoying. Instead of out and out saying that the referee making that call ****ed up big time they make excuses for him--in this case comparing the Asham call to the boarding call given to Beagle in the first period. The reason Beagle got called was for hitting someone after an icing--something frowned on by the league for good reason--injuries from such plays--particularly concussions. There was no comparison and it was a **** call.

Which brings me to the Moore non-goal. Apparently no one in Toronto reviewing maybe goals has ever taken a physics course. The puck was in Holtby's glove. Holtby's entire glove was in the net. Sam and Joe arguing that there was no definitive evidence that the puck crossed the line makes them look like a couple yokels for the second time tonight. Whatever the league thinks the call defies science and apparently one can conclude that Micheletti for one at the U. of Minnesota never took a physics course either. I wonder what Sam's excuse is.

Both of them shilling for the league.

Replay rules are pretty specific, the puck has to be seen over the goal line.

 

[The Gloaming]

Too bad we can't play offense. Too much pass... wide....

Well that's obvious. We are the New York Rangers.

 

[haveandare]

well team traded gaborik to hand pick a team 'built to win in the playoffs'

still cant score in playoffs. Gaborik ppg vs. Caps last year.

Yes I'm still bitter.

Gaborik's goals vs. everyone last year. Too bad it's this year. He's not the same player.

 

[Tawnos]

I disagree with you in saying Holtby outplayed Lundqvist. The Caps had MANY more quality scoring chances than we did, and Hank made saves on a majority of them. The goals that were scored were unfortunate, but they weren't blatant soft goals by any means.

Its less a matter of which goalie outplayed each other, and more the fact that our inept offense/power play can't put a puck in the net beyond a fluke bounce off the opponents skate.

Because your opponent has nothing to do with the outcome of the game?

 

[JCrusher*]

I don't see how people are complaining about Kreider. I thought he was one of the better players in the 3rd.

Definitely a good number of guys I'd put ahead of him on the "Who played badly" list

he is the new whipping boy

 

[Dangleberry]

well team traded gaborik to hand pick a team 'built to win in the playoffs'

still cant score in playoffs. Gaborik ppg vs. Caps last year.

Yes I'm still bitter.

LOL the man is in the hospital getting abdominal surgery do you honestly think he would've made a difference at this point in time?

 

[Riverdale]

Our best defenseman by a mile.

Carolina bound

 

[Kershaw]

Gaborik's goals vs. everyone last year. Too bad it's this year. He's not the same player.

Torn labrum and still our best forward (along with BR) in that series.

 

[Machinehead]

I disagree with you in saying Holtby outplayed Lundqvist. The Caps had MANY more quality scoring chances than we did, and Hank made saves on a majority of them. The goals that were scored were unfortunate, but they weren't blatant soft goals by any means.

Its less a matter of which goalie outplayed each other, and more the fact that our inept offense/power play can't put a puck in the net beyond a fluke bounce off the opponents skate.

But the Caps didn't have more chances than we did. Not by any means.

Hank could give up 13 goals from beyond the blueline and you would still say it's everyone's fault but his.

Holtby was better tonight. No unbiased is going to look at that game and say otherwise. It was clear as day.

 

[ImIdaho]

We seriously, seriously need to learn one timers and it would be lovely to have someone with a booming shot. I'd gladly do a swap with Del Zaster and Subban.

 

[SA16]

It wasn't a goal.

Do they intend on actually showing this mystery replay that showed the puck not in or are they going to just make this statement?

Can we stop complaining about the refs?

If this team was good enough it could have overcome it.

Stating facts about the refs is not complaining about them. It is a fact that the call on Asham was extremely soft. And also that Stralman was taken down before the second goal with no call. Not complaining about it. Just stating it as it is.

But the Caps didn't have more chances than we did. Not by any means.

Hank could give up 13 goals from beyond the blueline and you would still say it's everyone's fault but his.

Holtby was better tonight. No unbiased is going to look at that game and say otherwise. It was clear as day.

If Holtby was better tonight (not saying he was or wasn't) then we should be happy with this game because
1. It's highly unlikely he will play as good as he did for the remainder of the series.
2. The fact that Holtby was able to outplay Hank indicates that we had a large number of good scoring chances that he made great saves on or he wouldn't have even had the opportunity to play so well.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

Well that's obvious. We are the New York Rangers.

This is why we won't win. The offensive structure isn't there. The players that can do it are. The strat isn't. No chemistry/structure except for Derek and Carl.

 

[Kershaw]

LOL the man is in the hospital getting abdominal surgery do you honestly think he would've made a difference at this point in time?

Yeah, he's proven he'll play with one shoulder. He's bat **** crazy.

 

[Tawnos]

But the Caps didn't have more chances than we did. Not by any means.

Hank could give up 13 goals from beyond the blueline and you would still say it's everyone's fault but his.

Holtby was better tonight. No unbiased is going to look at that game and say otherwise. It was clear as day.

Exactly. And none of that is really to say that Lundqvist played poorly. Holtby just played better.

 

[blue2noise]

We are way too small without Clowe, Staal and Boyle.

 

[Fitzy]

The Rangers won each of the game 1s of their three series last year. They lost each game 2.

I won't be sweating until such a time as we're down 2 games. They have to win on Saturday and bring it back to MSG even.

As I said before, both of these teams have a distinct statistical advantage on home ice.

 

[haveandare]

We seriously, seriously need to learn one timers and it would be lovely to have someone with a booming shot. I'd gladly do a swap with Del Zaster and Subban.

I would hope everyone would do that, but yeah, they need to work on one timers. Richards has used them well in the past - I don't know what happened to that skill for him.