Confirmed Trade: [NYR/VAN] JT Miller, Erik Brannstrom, Jackson Dorrington for Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini, 2025 1st round pick (top 13 protected)

[lawrence]

It's dumb to make this a Miller vs. Pettersson trade; they weren't traded for each other.
Canucks sold high on a contract that was about to look really bad, and the Rangers are full of bad salary and aging forwards.
The main knock on Miller was always "what are the Canucks going to do in a couple of years when that contract begins to stink" and they have solved that problem after extracting his most competitive years.
Pettersson on the other hand is younger and has turned the corner, likely still has many big seasons ahead of him.
What I'm currently choked about on behalf of the Canucks is Chytil's injury, and likewise injury history re: concussions - the Canucks are down one of the main assets they need right now to be competitive.

I think they are just trying to indirectly try to say we made a mistake by trading the wrong player and that we should have traded Pettersson instead of JT Miller. I guess that's where they are trying to spin it as. so its like "ha! you losers f ed up! Canucks sucks blah blah blah" but it also seems like other Ranger haters are trying to make fun of New York for making a bad trade. Overall not a very constructive thread anymore.

 

[lawrence]

The Canucks sold high?!? You think that was the selling high return? You can't be serious.

Its on par with whatever Sabres got for Jack Eichel and Eichel was much young younger and better player. The 1st rounder was business as usual, we got a very good prospect in return in Mancini, and we got a roster player in Cythil. The fans seems to like Mancini a lot. Don't forget Miller is 32.... and a 7 more years tied to him. Us getting rid of that contract is also a win.

 

[lakeshirts37]

The Canucks were over a barrel since JT limited their options given his desire to go to NY.

Long term this will still look good since I suspect his contract will age like milk left outside on a warm summer day.

Perhaps they could have insisted for a different young NHL forward like Will Cuylle. He’s not a center and who knows if he was available but he’s a good young middle 6 guy on a cheap deal.

The return is not good, never will be. Contract is fine. You’re smoking crack if you think Cuylle was available

 

[lakeshirts37]

Its on par with whatever Sabres got for Jack Eichel and Eichel was much young younger and better player. The 1st rounder was business as usual, we got a very good prospect in return in Mancini, and we got a roster player in Cythil. The fans seems to like Mancini a lot. Don't forget Miller is 32.... and a 7 more years tied to him. Us getting rid of that contract is also a win.

Is this sarcasm? The return isnt comparable at all. Also, He just turned 32 and theres 5 years left. Cap is exploding contract is not an issue

 

[lakeshirts37]

They do not. Nor would Pittt agree to it considering it could be a lottery ball for Gavin Mckenna next year....

How insane would that be ... Lemieux to Crosby to Mckenna

Yes they can

 

[lakeshirts37]

Of course it would have been locked without context.

1. Miller quietly asked for a trade and a fresh start elsewhere.
2. Miller crossed the line and had to be given a "leave of absence"
3. No Movement Clause which was basically that Miller only wanted to go to NYR.

The fact that the Canucks were able to get a 1st, young roster player and good prospect for him was job well done.


Put it this way from Canucks POV...

IF JT Miller was a free agent this summer , would i be thrilled if the Canucks signed him to a 5ysr 8mil AAV deal at age 32........heck no.. thats gonna age like Milk and will handcuff the Canucks cap wise in the future.


Would the Rangers have signed him to that contract if he was UFA? + give up all the assets they did.? I guess Drury would.

Why cant you just admit Van got bent over a barrel?

 

[Raistlin]

Why cant you just admit Van got bent over a barrel?

in the short term, this year and the next, they were definitely bent over a barrel, esp now that Chytil maybe lost for the whole year, possibly forever.

that said, its only true IF the rangers are winning, if they are a bad team, Vancouver poison pilled you guys.

when Miller is 34 and still have 4 years to go in his contract. You will not like him being a distraction and not an impact player.

I believe its a lose lose trade right now.

 

[lakeshirts37]

in the short term, this year and the next, they were definitely bent over a barrel, esp now that Chytil maybe lost for the whole year, possibly forever.

that said, its only true IF the rangers are winning, if they are a bad team, Vancouver poison pilled you guys.

when Miller is 34 and still have 4 years to go in his contract. You will not like him being a distraction and not an impact player.

I believe its a lose lose trade

The trade in vacuum was a fleecing. I dont care how the teams are doing its irrelevant.

Oh and when Miller turns 34 itll be the 26-27 season, and he’ll have three years left.

 

[lawrence]

Why cant you just admit Van got bent over a barrel?

What were we suppose to get ?

 

[Mr Nogatco]

Why cant you just admit Van got bent over a barrel?

What kind of return should they have held out for and what team was gonna pay it? Seems like they made the best of a bad situation.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Why cant you just admit Van got bent over a barrel?

The main return was being rid of Miller. They did fine.

 

[Coffee]

What were we suppose to get ?

Royalty

 

[centipede2233]

Even though with the chytil injury this looks bad for the Canucks, if Chytil can’t come back next year the Canucks can use the cap space for free agency. You can lose hockey trades and still be fine.