Proposal: NYR - UTA

[RABBIT]

To Utah:
Jacob Trouba (no retention)

To NYR:
2024 3rd round pick (EDM)

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[GhostfaceWu]

All those seconds plus prospect is on the wrong side buddy

 

[Djp]

Trouba does not have that value. Rangers need to add 2nds for utah to take that contract

 

[RABBIT]

Edited to make it more reasonable. Didn’t realize NYR wanted out of him so bad?

I would still think teams would covet him due to his size and right hand shot. Am i way out to lunch?

Trouba does not have that value. Rangers need to add 2nds to take that contract

Sold

 

[Vitto79]

Trouba does not have that value. Rangers need to add 2nds to take that contract

Not according to recent reports but I also expect it to be more of a cap dump

Maybe take 4 mil poop contracts back and save the other 4 to spend elsewhere

 

[RABBIT]

Changed to Trouba with no retention for Edmonton‘s third because apparently I’m way out of the loop. I know his contact is bad but it’s only for two more years and Utah can afford to take it on.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Frank said he has positive value so I don’t think a decent return for the rangers is unlikely. Give us one of those 2nds you can’t hoard all of them Lmao.

 

[Djp]

Changed to Trouba with no retention for Edmonton‘s third because apparently I’m way out of the loop. I know his contact is bad but it’s only for two more years and Utah can afford to take it on.

8M is still hard to eat whole.

 

[SR]

Would much rather see what Ryan Lindgren could be had for.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Frank said he has positive value so I don’t think a decent return for the rangers is unlikely. Give us one of those 2nds you can’t hoard all of them Lmao.

Well if Frank said it, then it must be true obviously

 

[lanceuppercut75]

I think Soderstrom or Kolyachonok for Trouba makes sense. More sense than a draft pick, IMO.

Utah takes on a LOT of cap, but gives up only a 3rd pair young D that still has to prove they're good enough to stay in the NHL long-term. They get the locker room presence, physicality, veteran player while mostly only giving up cap space, which they have a LOT of. If you've got it, then weaponize it to your advantage.

For NYR, it's the opposite. They give up all the good aspects of Trouba, and all they get back is a 3rd pair D that might not be in the NHL in 2 years. However, they open up $7 million in cap space, which is valuable in and of itself. Especially for a cup contender.

 

[5cotland]

Trouba has positive value. He is still a top 4 defenseman. His salary cap is awful but it only has 2 years left.

Rangers dont have to give anything up to trade him. We are not that desperate for cap space.

Would much rather see what Ryan Lindgren could be had for.

Easy 1st rounder+

 

[5cotland]

8M is still hard to eat whole.

It will be for cup contenders but when the salary cap jumps over $8m the next two seasons, it makes it more manageable

 

[Tob]

This is Ben Chairot (or who was it that MTL traded to FLA) for a 1st round pick debate all over again. May the gods be on the Rangers side for this one.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Yeah I don't see Utah really having any interest in Trouba. Yes they can afford him but he's not better than Durzi, and I don't think putting Moser and Trouba together would be great either. Like he's physical and a decent defenseman but he also exposes himself to penalties a ton and isn't great defensively. And at 8m? Pretty sure Utah can find better than that in FA. Shit, Kesselring might be better than that next year.

 

[Djp]

It will be for cup contenders but when the salary cap jumps over $8m the next two seasons, it makes it more manageable

Ummm do the math. Hid contract ends before any 8m cap jump occurs

 

[bernmeister]

To Utah:
Jacob Trouba (no retention)

To NYR:
2024 3rd round pick (EDM)

1. note the new avatar and this wordsmith gives thumbs up on the blurb following

2. OP is acceptable as it is for full pop
HOWEV
also remember Troub = nmc->modif ntc and UT may/may not be on the list
and Lindy is an option

counter offer preferred:

for Trouba 1.5 retained = 6.5 hit + NYR 2024 3rd for 2 2nds

and/or

for Lindgren + 4th for 2 2nds


what say you?

 

[bernmeister]

I think Soderstrom or Kolyachonok for Trouba makes sense. More sense than a draft pick, IMO.

Utah takes on a LOT of cap, but gives up only a 3rd pair young D that still has to prove they're good enough to stay in the NHL long-term. They get the locker room presence, physicality, veteran player while mostly only giving up cap space, which they have a LOT of. If you've got it, then weaponize it to your advantage.

For NYR, it's the opposite. They give up all the good aspects of Trouba, and all they get back is a 3rd pair D that might not be in the NHL in 2 years. However, they open up $7 million in cap space, which is valuable in and of itself. Especially for a cup contender.

if Rs are smart + listen to bern, here they want picks, not yr prospects

Scanlin now + Fortescue in the mirror following season, we ok at LD
everyone is tight at RD
but prefer to recover cap space and see what, like Drew Helleson costs
worst case, can use Jones at 3RD

 

[WreckingCrew]

Rags think they're getting a + value asset for Trouba with no retention? Of course they also think he's not a dirty player so...

 

[Doriva]

Rags think they're getting a + value asset for Trouba with no retention? Of course they also think he's not a dirty player so...

This isn't a post by a Rangers fan my G

 

[WreckingCrew]

This isn't a post by a Rangers fan my G

No, but the replies are

 

[bernmeister]

Rags think they're getting a + value asset for Trouba with no retention? Of course they also think he's not a dirty player so...

This isn't a post by a Rangers fan my G

No, but the replies are

And those replies properly point out that at correct #, he DOES have positive value.
That correct # could be smaller return, as per OP
OR
bigger return with modest retain, as per me

Fact: JT = righty D w/size, = in demand due to shortage league wide
He has flaws but, among other +s is very effective at clearing the crease

thus he DOES have value and is not 111% cap dump exclusively

 

[seabass45]

GMs are stupid about big physical RDs and Trouba isn't old. Wouldn't be surprised if there's someone out there willing to give something up for that. Maybe you send a contract the other way to lower the impact of the cap hit.

 

[5cotland]

Ummm do the math. Hid contract ends before any 8m cap jump occurs

Well it jumped $4.5m for this coming season and the 25/26 season is is expected to go up a further $4m to $92m.

Do the math. $4m + $4.5m = $8.5m over the next next two seasons

Rags think they're getting a + value asset for Trouba with no retention? Of course they also think he's not a dirty player so...

Rangers will not pay to get rid of Trouba's contract. Rangers will get a + asset if they trade him

 

[lanceuppercut75]

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