Confirmed with Link: NYR sign Jacob Trouba 7 years / $8M AAV

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Wasn’t directed at you - you’re far from the only one who looks in or even participate in main board discussions.

I find it aggravating reading posts that are intellectually insulting. On our board I have an option of blocking posts or, knowing the lay of the land, I could simply not put much weight in certain opinions. The main board doesn’t provide these protections.

The ignore feature works perfectly. I started using it recently. It's amazing. Whole new world.

Also the irony of this

I find it aggravating reading posts that are intellectually insulting.

Followed later in the page by this

The oddest thing.

Those draft picks usually turn out to be good players suck as Kravtsov, Chytil and Howden

So yeah, I like draft picks

Thankfully put down by this

You know what he's talking about, or should know.......

We all like picks and prospects. Some people overemphasize it. They're Peter Griffin--"You can have this boat, or you can have the mystery box! It could be anything, even a boat!"

 

[PalmCoastRanger]

This is how I'd lay out the PP units

Kakko

Zibby Chytil Buchnevich

DeAngelo

Kreider (if kept, Andersson maybe otherwise?)

Panarin Strome Kravtsov

Trouba

With Fox eventually stepping in somewhere and without Shattenkirk getting any time at all. Two balanced PP units that can put the puck in the net.

Not sure about placing Kaako infront of the net on the power play. He is only 18 and the beating he will receive at that spot might shorten his shelf life, while increasing his chance of getting hurt.

When he is physically more mature, sure plop him down infront of the goalie. Besides, he is naturally drawn to that area of the ice anyway.

No complaints about the Trouba deal. Young, good, tough and hopefully healthy defenseman.

 

[Leetch3]

Not sure about placing Kaako infront of the net on the power play. He is only 18 and the beating he will receive at that spot might shorten his shelf life, while increasing his chance of getting hurt.

When he is physically more mature, sure plop him down infront of the goalie. Besides, he is naturally drawn to that area of the ice anyway.

No complaints about the Trouba deal. Young, good, tough and hopefully healthy defenseman.

It’s 2019 there is virtually no contact in front of the net. It’s not shortening anything

 

[I Eat Crow]

Not sure about placing Kaako infront of the net on the power play. He is only 18 and the beating he will receive at that spot might shorten his shelf life, while increasing his chance of getting hurt.

When he is physically more mature, sure plop him down infront of the goalie. Besides, he is naturally drawn to that area of the ice anyway.

No complaints about the Trouba deal. Young, good, tough and hopefully healthy defenseman.

I understand the concern, but as @Leetch3 mentioned, he's not going to take beatings like Tomas Holmstrom used to. I watched him play there for Finland in the WC. He's very effective along the boards and at the half wall. Chytil and Andersson are probably best in front of the net too.

Kravtsov and Buchnevich are 100% half wall PP players. There's no where else for Kakko to play really. He'd be a waste in the slot.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Kakko is way too good with the puck to make him stand in front.

Buch and Krav can take a backseat to him.

 

[SensontheRush]

So.... you got your best defenseman at the cost of a non-own 1st round pick, so how could this not be considered a super steal?

 

[bobbop]

HF Rules...

1. Every contract is an overpay
2. We want many of the players we don’t have
3. Once we don’t sign them, they are overrated trash
4. (In most cases) visit another board and you are a) a troll, b) dumb as a stump or c) a homer for another team
5. Have a good life

 

[Inferno]

I've been a ranger fan for 30 years...I'm sure many of you are in the same boat.

Again I'll ask you guys..how many times have these huge long contracts worked out for us?

I'm hoping panarin and trouba are different, but if you're in the questioning or unhappy camp, I have a hard time blaming ya.

In theory I'm fine with this deal but I can definitely understand why someone would have qualms.

 

[Irishguy42]

Because previous big UFA signings being bad means all future big UFA signings will be bad.

Totally related. Definitely.

 

[Inferno]

Because previous big UFA signings being bad means all future big UFA signings will be bad.

Totally related. Definitely.

Because like 999 out of the previous 1000 bug ufa deals were bad definitely means that the odds of these end up being bad are waaaaayyy higher than anyone who is over the moon so full of themselves that they mock everyone else wants to admit

 

[Inferno]

I personally think the issue is that some players...not all, but some, lose that competitive drive once they get that huge pay day. We've been bad at recognizing who that is

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I personally think the issue is that some players...not all, but some, lose that competitive drive once they get that huge pay day. We've been bad at recognizing who that is

Could this be because we keep signing players who have already won a Cup and therefore don't have that much to play for anymore? Richards, Fedotenko, Boyle, Drury, Gomez, Holik etc

 

[Levitate]

I personally think the issue is that some players...not all, but some, lose that competitive drive once they get that huge pay day. We've been bad at recognizing who that is

I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment. It has far more to do with age and when a player declines than it does “competitive drive”, most of the guys you mention were in the wrong side of 30 at the start of their contracts and also generally had a few good years anyways before falling off. That won’t be an issue for Trouba considering his age.
Holik though I vaguely recall slacking off

 

[Inferno]

I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment. It has far more to do with age and when a player declines than it does “competitive drive”, most of the guys you mention were in the wrong side of 30 at the start of their contracts and also generally had a few good years anyways before falling off. That won’t be an issue for Trouba considering his age.
Holik though I vaguely recall slacking off

It's certainly possible I'm not sure. Plenty of guys work out for other teams but it seems like we get the duds more often.

I pray you guys are right..I'm just a bit jaded from all the years of it not working out to think it's immediately going to be roses.

And even if they do work out year 1...I'm curious to see how it plays out in years 5, 6 and 7 for both guys.

I'm not sure if they'll work out, the only issue I have is with people automatically assuming they will...just like you can't automatically assume they won't.

I'm not gonna lie... I'm nervous about both contracts.

Panarin because of his age and trouba because of his footspeed.

 

[Zibanejbread]

Storm Trouba

 

[Ratelleitlikeitis]

there is no need to be afraid

Beats a dancing victory flamingo any day. Now I really want to know its name...real name. Googled it...Donnie

 

[will1066]

Storm Trouba

I would have preferred a shirt of him citing chirp poetry dressed like a middle ages troubadour.

 

[will1066]

Could this be because we keep signing players who have already won a Cup and therefore don't have that much to play for anymore? Richards, Fedotenko, Boyle, Drury, Gomez, Holik etc

I think Levitate's assessment is more accurate. It was age and ability more than drive/motivation. I believe that most players are competitive and more repeat types than one-and-done types.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

It's certainly possible I'm not sure. Plenty of guys work out for other teams but it seems like we get the duds more often.

I pray you guys are right..I'm just a bit jaded from all the years of it not working out to think it's immediately going to be roses.

And even if they do work out year 1...I'm curious to see how it plays out in years 5, 6 and 7 for both guys.

I'm not sure if they'll work out, the only issue I have is with people automatically assuming they will...just like you can't automatically assume they won't.

I'm not gonna lie... I'm nervous about both contracts.

Panarin because of his age and trouba because of his footspeed.

If Zucc is any indication, Panarin will likely age fine. He's not a big physical player like a Callahan or Lucic that tends to age badly.

Trouba is signed till 32. Odds are, he'll be good through most of his contract.

Of course, this isn't accounting for any unpredictable injuries (like with Shattenkirk).

 

[Doctyl]

If Zucc is any indication, Panarin will likely age fine. He's not a big physical player like a Callahan or Lucic that tends to age badly.

Trouba is signed till 32. Odds are, he'll be good through most of his contract.

Of course, this isn't accounting for any unpredictable injuries (like with Shattenkirk).

With the last few there have been major injury concerns.

Richards had the concussion right before coming here. Dallas fans were saying he didn’t look the same when he came back from it. He was still a good player for us, just not the elite 1C we were looking for.

Shattenkirk has the knee injury that really messed with him. That’s a risk signing any player.

Gaborik was actually a great signing and we unloaded him at exactly the right time.

We didn’t sign Nash, but he was good through most of his contract for us and we got a decent return for him at the deadline.

If anything not knowing when to let our own guys go has caused this current era just as many or more problems than free agency has. At least we didn’t hang onto Callahan.

 

[Ratelleitlikeitis]

Beats a dancing victory flamingo any day. Now I really want to know its name...real name. Googled it...Donnie

Imagine if they got a second and named it Murdoch, Marshall or Brook. Huge respect.

 

[Thordic]

In theory I'm fine with this deal but I can definitely understand why someone would have qualms.

It's a mixed bag. Generally only part of the contract works out, but we remember the bad years over the good ones.

Nash? Played his tail off, scored a bunch of goals, but we remember his no-show in 2014.

Gaborik? Scored a ton of goals but of course we remember him playing better for the Kings against us than he did for us in the playoffs.

You can go back however long you want. Lindros got a lot of crap at times back in the day but he played hard for us. Holik got overpaid by a ton and we asked him to play as an offensive center, which wasn't his skillset, and he led a (terrible) team in scoring.

The bigger problem is generally we were signing mid-tier guys like they were top-tier guys, and top-tier guys who were well past their prime. Drury, Gomez, Redden, etc.

Panarin is a top-tier guy still pretty close to his prime. He's more in the Gaborik/Nash mold, and both those players contributed to some pretty damn good teams. Same with Trouba. And ideally with our picks lately you have to hope the supporting cast comes along as well. To me that's a bigger concern - they signed the "finishing" pieces before we know if the support pieces are any good. Sure we assume Kakko, Kravtsov, etc are going to be good but there's a ton of questions marks. If Panarin and Trouba are surrounded by guys who are struggling, then they were bad signings.

 

[LORDE]

Beats a dancing victory flamingo any day. Now I really want to know its name...real name. Googled it...Donnie

This needs to be a thing

 

[TheTakedown]

The oddest thing.

Those draft picks usually turn out to be good players suck as Kravtsov, Chytil and Howden

So yeah, I like draft picks

They "USUALLY" bust... that's just statistical fact

 

[NYRFANMANI]

idgaf about his dog or his wife