Claimed off Waivers: [NYR] Rangers claim F Arthur Kaliyev off waivers from the Kings

[Kennerback]

I love the pickup. He’ll score goals or completely bust. No in-between. High reward. No risk.

 

[895]

Did we ever find out what this guys big dark secret was? I read some tweets hinting about some stuff

 

[King'sPawn]

I think what you are saying is that he missed all the time last season v. not getting quality shots. If so, this is 100% what happened. His best attribute is his shot and he just began shanking every good opportunity. Stick starts to be gripped too tightly, he gets in his own head etc.

Funny thing is that he still found his way to be in a position to miss a good opportunity whereas many Kings players can't even get a chance to miss a good opportunity.

Toffoli put together a worse season in 2019 than Kaliyev ever has. Career worst shooting percentage on a total shot amount that is still one of the highest of his career. He gets more rope than Kaliyev since he's proven it before, but Kaliyev's 2024 reminded me of Toffoli's 2019. The difference, amongst other things, is that Toffoli is a good locker room guy whereas Kaliyev just doesn't seem to fit in.

I love AK's skillset. At worse, he is a 20 goal guy on a lottery team. The skill is NHL contract worthy and I hope he turns it around but I do feel he is destined to play overseas.

More or less, he was shanking some opportunities, but as a whole, even pedestrian shots didn't generate rebounds or create a scoring chance. At least that's my memory and perception.

 

[go4hockey]

they just want to ruin his development like kakko

They are to late Blake and the Kings have already done that.

 

[Osprey]

LA gave up Kaliyev for nothing in order to not risk losing nearly 38-year-old Trevor Lewis or 8th d-man Kyle Burroughs.

 

[Telos]

I think most knew he wasn't going to clear, at this point the rift between him and management was vast and his spot had been totally stolen by better options. Excellent shooter obviously, had an NHL shot at his draft, little bit of a mid skater and not too physical. The Kings, like all prospects, want to force a defensive checking game into all of their players and Kaliyev wasn't the best at adapting but he probably is not as bad as they make it seem.

Unfortunately, he both got passed over, lost confidence of the coaching staff versus other options, had some really untimely injuries, and now has little shot of becoming a main roster player, though he probably could stick and is an NHL talent. Happy the fued is over and he has his shot elsewhere, can easily see it going either way. At the very least, if he ever plays the Kings you can chalk him up for a guaranteed goal or two...

 

[kingsfan28]

LA gave up Kaliyev for nothing in order to not risk losing nearly 38-year-old Trevor Lewis or 8th d-man Kyle Burroughs.

AK was worth nothing. They tried every avenue to move him for a year, no takers, even teams looking to make the cap floor passed.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

AK was worth nothing. They tried every avenue to move him for a year, no takers, even teams looking to make the cap floor passed.

So you showcase him on a contract year as 12th 13th forward that scores a few on a 2nd PP unit and you trade him at the deadline. When you prefer icing 11 players and not give any chance to Kaliyev, despite our awful PP is interesting to me.

Burroughs brings nothing but 4minutes of garbage icetime. There's nothing Burroughs brings to the table for the Kings that they don't already have.

The Kings prefer 4 minutes of Burroughs over 4 minutes of Kaliyev.

 

[kingsfan28]

More or less, he was shanking some opportunities, but as a whole, even pedestrian shots didn't generate rebounds or create a scoring chance. At least that's my memory and perception.

This is pretty much true. His shot became predictable, and goalies knew just where set up . He had 74 shots over the first 3 months in 23'-24'... 6 goals. That's only an 8 pct sp. Dec of 23' was his high with 27 shots.. 1 goal for a 3.7 sp. For a so called sniper that's awful.

 

[kingsfan28]

So you showcase him on a contract year as 12th 13th forward that scores a few on a 2nd PP unit and you trade him at the deadline. When you prefer icing 11 players and not give any chance to Kaliyev, despite our awful PP is interesting to me.

Burroughs brings nothing but 4minutes of garbage icetime. There's nothing Burroughs brings to the table for the Kings that they don't already have.

The Kings prefer 4 minutes of Burroughs over 4 minutes of Kaliyev.

He'd still have no value. He was worth more last year when he was playing until after Jan when his game went to crap and he was in the dog house. Teams could actually watch him play, either live or any of the replays available. The TDL rolled around an no takers, not even future considerations.

 

[pld459666]

I initially thought this could be a possibility. Wasn't expecting it. Surprised it happened

 

[Osprey]

AK was worth nothing. They tried every avenue to move him for a year, no takers, even teams looking to make the cap floor passed.

I know, My point was that they waived him when other players would've cleared easily.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Not the first Staten Island kid who couldn’t skate picked up by the NYR

 

[bland]

I know, My point was that they waived him when other players would've cleared easily.

Kaliyev damaged his relationship with the organization last year, nobody is shedding a tear for him in El Segundo today. The bigger fear was nobody putting in a claim and having him malingering around Ontario when he clearly didn't want to put in the work here.

 

[bland]

So you showcase him on a contract year as 12th 13th forward that scores a few on a 2nd PP unit and you trade him at the deadline. When you prefer icing 11 players and not give any chance to Kaliyev, despite our awful PP is interesting to me.

Burroughs brings nothing but 4minutes of garbage icetime. There's nothing Burroughs brings to the table for the Kings that they don't already have.

The Kings prefer 4 minutes of Burroughs over 4 minutes of Kaliyev.

Burroughs will be waived/dealt the second Doughty is cleared.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Kakko to Kaliyev is a sweet upgrade

 

[Osprey]

Kaliyev damaged his relationship with the organization last year, nobody is shedding a tear for him in El Segundo today. The bigger fear was nobody putting in a claim and having him malingering around Ontario when he clearly didn't want to put in the work here.

If they wanted him gone, they could've given him away for future considerations at any time, and I don't think that they would've given him a conditioning stint in Ontario if they didn't want him around that team. That suggests to me that they were trying to send him there unconditionally and hoped that he'd clear. They're probably not that heartbroken that he was claimed, considering the circumstances, but I don't think that they wanted to lose him for nothing.

 

[Smitty426]

Kakko to Kaliyev is a sweet upgrade

just spelled differently, you're getting Kakko 2 yrs ago

 

[BigKing]

More or less, he was shanking some opportunities, but as a whole, even pedestrian shots didn't generate rebounds or create a scoring chance. At least that's my memory and perception.

My recollection was that he was getting chances where the puck was going to him and it would excite you that the guy with the killer shot was the one about to receive the puck but then nothing, much like the snakebit Toffoli season I mentioned earlier.

This is pretty much true. His shot became predictable, and goalies knew just where set up . He had 74 shots over the first 3 months in 23'-24'... 6 goals. That's only an 8 pct sp. Dec of 23' was his high with 27 shots.. 1 goal for a 3.7 sp. For a so called sniper that's awful.

Six goals and 12 points in the first 20 games. The wheels started to come off the bus for the Kings in Game 24 (12/9/23) on the Island, Kaliyev's 22nd game of the season as he was suspended to start the year for a kneeing penalty, something that put a wrench in Blake's master plan to assemble a roster short one player due to cap constraints. Over the next 15 games Kaliyev played in (was scratched a couple of times), the Kings lost 11 of them with the last three games seeing him get less than nine minutes of ice time, including McClellan's last game.

T-Mac fired on February 2nd. Hiller's first game is February 10th and Kaliyev is scratched for the first four Hiller games, playing 6 1/2 and 9 minutes in his first two Hiller games, respectively. It was a wrap at that point as he played in 11 more games for Hiller, touching double digit ice time in only four of them.

We all need to speculate on what happened, but he wasn't producing during the Kings December/January swoon and lost a ton of confidence. Is he a selfish player that acted like a diva that didn't want to put the work in, or is he a socially awkward dork that didn't really have friends on the team and is tits on a bull if he isn't scoring for a coach that is trying not to lose his job and then for a coach that is trying to prove he should get the fulltime gig?

I think it is more of the latter but asking for a trade in the offseason instead of committing to try and work his way into Hiller's good graces doesn't fly when you have zero capital built up. He also could have been mailing it in at practice, but he is also an easy scapegoat for a coach who is about to lose his job because the Kings have a hard time scoring three goals but he can't scratch PLD. Blame goes on both sides here and, as it relates to the Kings, this is a problem we've gone over ad nauseum when it comes to developing "the best prospect pool in the league" v. the decision to try to win immediately. Patience is thin for the latter and an NHL coach on a short leash is going to play Trevor Lewis over him because the trust is there.

All that said, I disagree that his shot became predictable, aside that it was predictable that it wasn't going to go in. There was no "the book is out on this guy" as he can put it anywhere when he's on. Much like that Toffoli season, he just lost it and then it becomes a combo of just throw it at the net from anywhere but think too much and try to be perfect on a good chance. Just very frustrating to see and I hate that it wound up this way but there is something about him that doesn't jive with hockey guys and it was alluded to in the lead up to the draft.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Kakko to Kaliyev is a sweet upgrade

Kaliyev fits in. He is slow like the rest of the Rangers.

 

[Jumptheshark]

That tweet was from March 27th, 2023. It is January 6th, 2025.

I was curious when looking at that post my mind went. That does not make sense

 

[SML2]

We have needed a shooter since Vatrano left. I haven't been excited about waiver pickups since the 90s, but I have a good feeling about this one. Plus I think Drury is looking to make deals and this gives you a skill top 6 option if you move someone out. I liked Kaliyev in his draft year. He seemed a little off, but you can be rainman if your trick is shooting pucks past goalies.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Sens should have just given something to get Kaliyev.

He is a high IQ player with a great shot and size. Always seemed to me like he could become a shitty version of Draisaitl.

Feels like all he needs is to play with a linemate like Stutzle to build some confidence and catch fire.

Not sure Rangers have that but hope he does well anyway.

 

[izzy]

if im a young player getting claimed by new york i probably just retire on the spot

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Honestly, it says a lot about his reputation around the league when so many bottom feeding, offensively starved teams saw him available for free and say, "nah. We're good with Pat Maroon"

Would agree but Maroon is the Tank Commander General, they're trying to not improve by any means necessary