Confirmed with Link: [NYR/NSH] Michael Del Zotto for Kevin Klein

[Ghost of jas]

What I personally believe this means is that McIlrath will be traded and isn't in the team's long term plans.

Umm, what? Stralman and Girardi are both pending UFAs. If anything, it means that Stralman is less likely to return.

 

[Hire Sather]

isnt it amazing how alex goligoski gets james neal AND a replacement defender

 

[haveandare]

What I personally believe this means is that McIlrath will be traded and isn't in the team's long term plans.

How do you get that from this? Klein is tough, but not to the extent McI is. Look at his PIM stats. Plus, he's 29 and McI is still very young. If anything, he's a stopgap until McI is ready.

 

[chosen]

Happy Zots is gone.

Don't much care what we got unless he makes enormous defensive blunders, too.

 

[Fitzy]

Klein isn't unlike a less credentialed version of Girardi, on Girardi's initial deal.

With out situation at LHD and RHD, this makes a lot of sense. I'm not saying I'm thrilled, but I think this will benefit NYR in the long run. Klein is on a better priced deal than Del Zotto would have likely gotten.

By the way, of the players who have hit arbitration or held out on NYR,

Avery
Zherdev
Dubinsky
Del Zotto
Stepan

4 of 5 have been traded or let go.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Umm, what? Stralman and Girardi are both pending UFAs. If anything, it means that Stralman is less likely to return.

Which is sad. I like Stralman a lot.

 

[haveandare]

isnt it amazing how alex goligoski gets james neal AND a replacement defender

And Gomez gets one of the best d-men in the world. Teams make bad trades.

 

[Doctyl]

Would have rather kept DZ than Moore

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

This has no bearing whatsoever on McIlrath, IMO. I don't see why it would.

Assuming Girardi is resigned that leaves a rhd spot remaining on the 2nd/3rd pairing. If Stralman resigns cheap too? Where's his spot?

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

What I personally believe this means is that McIlrath will be traded and isn't in the team's long term plans.

Or it just means that the team knows that realistically it is losing one of Girardi or Stralman in the offseason.

 

[GAGLine]

What I personally believe this means is that McIlrath will be traded and isn't in the team's long term plans.

Yeah, okay.

 

[Miller Time NYR]

do not like, cant wait to see Del Zotto find his offensive game in Nashville and everyone here scratch their heads at the thought that he can actually hit the net. Tyutin 2.0.

at least Klein is on a great contract, if he can be Sauer 2.0 ill be happy, but i still think DZ has alot of potential.

 

[Konamic Ice Hockey]

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/kevin_klein/

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Happy Zots is gone.

Don't much care what we got unless he makes enormous defensive blunders, too.

Klein is solid defensively. Almost zero help on the puck movement/offensive side, though. But he's solid and will do the job. Decent 2nd pairing guy.

 

[BlueshirtBlitz]

Bad asset management all around.

This trade doesn't make us much better in any way.

 

[ecemleafs]

well he is suppose to be a defensive dman and -11 this year so far is not a good sign.. and id rather have someone a bit tougher like a Mark Stuart Adam McQuaid type guy.. someone with a bit more size..

mark stuart sucks.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

How do you get that from this? Klein is tough, but not to the extent McI is. Look at his PIM stats. Plus, he's 29 and McI is still very young. If anything, he's a stopgap until McI is ready.

Nothing to do with fighting. I think Stralman likes NYC. I think Girardi likes NYC. I thought both were going to resign. Getting Klein doesn't change that.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I could definitely see this as a precursor to a Girardi or Stralman trade.

Last night for a bit, pairs were:

McD-G
Staal-Moore
Del Z - Stralman

Now I would expect to see Moore-Klein as the 3rd pair. But if AV is trying Moore at RD, and likes it, one of the FAs could be moved.

 

[Fitzy]

do not like, cant wait to see Del Zotto find his offensive game in Nashville and everyone here scratch their heads at the thought that he can actually hit the net.

Even if he does, McDonagh will still be by far the better offensive LD option. And if Girardi or Stralman leave you'll be very happy that we have Klein. He's like Gleason/Sauer was. Not a lick of offense but solid stay at home. Dependable.

 

[JCrusher*]

What I personally believe this means is that McIlrath will be traded and isn't in the team's long term plans.

I know people love Mcilrath and i love his toughness BUT he doesnt seem to be a talented defensemen. yes he is young but even for a young guy he doesnt have strong skills yet he was picked in teh top 10

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Assuming Girardi is resigned that leaves a rhd spot remaining on the 2nd/3rd pairing. If Stralman resigns cheap too? Where's his spot?

I think it's a safer assumption that we lose one of Girardi or Stralman. I don't think we will keep both. Stralman is worth 3.5+ on the open market. Girardi 5+. Do you see us spending 8M on both of them (assuming we get a small hometown discount)?

I don't.

 

[haveandare]

Bad asset management all around.

This trade doesn't make us much better in any way.

While I'm not quite sold on it myself, a 3rd pair d-man for a guy who will likely also be a third pair d-man isn't going to make any team "much better." It's a relatively minor role.

 

[profchaos2001]

Giving the puck away isn't a rare skill set.

basically this.

DZ was supposed to be a PP specialist. Its clearly not working out. Good riddance. Terrible defensively and has been given 5 years to figure his game out, and only seems to be regressing.

 

[JCrusher*]

Bad asset management all around.

This trade doesn't make us much better in any way.

What did yu think we were gonna get for MDZ, Kane? Wheeler?. the fact is MDZ always has had potential but the last couple years he has really regressed. sather tried to rip off someone but nobody would bite

 

[Ghost of jas]

Which is sad. I like Stralman a lot.

They could always trade Girardi and keep Stralman.