Proposal: [NYR - MTL] Lundkvist for Lehkonen

Mersss

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NYR just got a 10 goals scored (68 over last 3-1/2) depth F for a 4th

They wont be paying inflated-seller-pricing for a middle-6 W, OP won't happen

somebody may pay all that, but most likely not NYR
You mean they paid a 4th for a guy FLA wanted to dump in order to do a bigger move right? Cause that's all it is
 

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You mean they paid a 4th for a guy FLA wanted to dump in order to do a bigger move right? Cause that's all it is
couldn't care less about seller's reasons why.
i stand by my statement, NYR not gonna overpay for depth guys or rentals
if/when i am wrong about that, you can genuinely call me out

I wish Habs and Gorton all the best, but this is not an "all-in" spring for NYR
posters at HFB are enjoying circling NYR's pipeline, hoping premature success leads to short-term benefit trades with longer-term costs
i don't see NYR sending away a top prospect for 'nice to have'

let's revisit Monday evening - see ya then
 

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couldn't care less about seller's reasons why.
i stand by my statement, NYR not gonna overpay for depth guys or rentals
if/when i am wrong about that, you can genuinely call me out

I wish Habs and Gorton all the best, but this is not an "all-in" spring for NYR
posters at HFB are enjoying circling NYR's pipeline, hoping premature success leads to short-term benefit trades with longer-term costs
i don't see NYR sending away a top prospect for 'nice to have'

let's revisit Monday evening - see ya then
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PuckLuck3043

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A very good and proven bottom six with outstanding defensive game for a B prospect that may never be.

The second has more value....but still...

No.
He's not a B prospect. He is the No. 2 ranked Ranger prospect and the Rangers have a good prospect pool. He's a 21yo RHD that just wasn't quite ready for the NHL. He has been doing very well in AHL and is highly though of by Ranger management. Many Ranger fans wouldn't do this trade straight up for Lehkonen let alone a second.
 
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PuckLuck3043

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Smashing the AHL?
@ 5'10 180, knowing he's terrible defensivelly, not physical at all, you're actually hoping he'd be near ppg in the AHL.

He isn't
He's a 21yo RHD 1st round pick. He's not terrible defensively and he has been scoring a lot recently. Schneider has been very good and proven to be more NHL at this point but it doesn't mean Lundkvist is not going to be a good one. I like Lehkonen a lot and want him on my team but the Rangers are not going to trade Lundkvist straight up for Lehkonen, let alone give up a second. It's just not going to happen.
 
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bernmeister

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The NYR are set at RD long term with Trouba, Fox and Schneider. They need quality players in their bottom 6 for the playoffs.

Montreal are sellers and lack RHD in their system.

The trade:

NYR gets: Lehkonen, 5th round pick in 2022.

Montreal gets: Lundkvist, 2nd round pick in 2022 (lowest between NYR's and St-Louis's)

Fair?
No not fair and more signif, it is a foolish win now overpay for a guy they cannot afford to extend post season. CAP IS REAL stop ignoring = consequences
 

bernmeister

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Incoming @bernmeister novel about how the Rangers would trade a 6th for Lehkonen and nothing more.
Price of any player set:
a) generally by the market
and
b) more dominantly specifically by a given team

Rangers:
cant afford the cap hit
and
should not give up a prospect of that quality for a 3rd line guy, even if, for sake of argument, one wants to value him as a top 3rd liner
I mean, you don't exactly get a really good A prospect for that, or a player that's going to be that in an even swap. If a player like Lehkonen is being traded, you're basically saying you don't expect to make playoffs (which they don't), and you need to get younger and build up your potential future roster with picks/prospects. I'm not sure holding out for a 1st is a better offer than this unless you feel Lundkvist doesn't have a future spot, which is a fair assessment, but I think any offer is going to involve prospect that may never be.
da bold
 

JustAHabFan

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Any team who want to get Lehkonen must give the Habs their 1st or a grade A prospect. And I don't consider Lundkvist as grade A prospect.
 

LastWordArmy

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The NYR are set at RD long term with Trouba, Fox and Schneider. They need quality players in their bottom 6 for the playoffs.

Montreal are sellers and lack RHD in their system.

The trade:

NYR gets: Lehkonen, 5th round pick in 2022.

Montreal gets: Lundkvist, 2nd round pick in 2022 (lowest between NYR's and St-Louis's)

Fair?

As a Montreal Fan, I would do that deal.

I'm pretty high on Lundkvist
 

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