Proposal: [NYR - MTL] Lundkvist for Lehkonen

[Michoulicious]

The NYR are set at RD long term with Trouba, Fox and Schneider. They need quality players in their bottom 6 for the playoffs.

Montreal are sellers and lack RHD in their system.

The trade:

NYR gets: Lehkonen, 5th round pick in 2022.

Montreal gets: Lundkvist, 2nd round pick in 2022 (lowest between NYR's and St-Louis's)

Fair?

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[Stewie Griffin]

Lundkvist for Lehkonen would actually be a solid base as a trade for both teams. I don't think the 2nd should be added, but I'm not sure what the difference in the two would be.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Rangers fans, what's prevented Lundkvist from taking that next step?

 

[Big Empty]

Incoming @bernmeister novel about how the Rangers would trade a 6th for Lehkonen and nothing more.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Incoming @bernmeister novel about how the Rangers would trade a 6th for Lehkonen and nothing more.

conditional 7ths only for bern

 

[HuGort]

The NYR are set at RD long term with Trouba, Fox and Schneider. They need quality players in their bottom 6 for the playoffs.

Montreal are sellers and lack RHD in their system.

The trade:

NYR gets: Lehkonen, 5th round pick in 2022.

Montreal gets: Lundkvist, 2nd round pick in 2022 (lowest between NYR's and St-Louis's)

Fair?

Makes a fellow think. But I am not sure

 

[TGWL]

Rangers fans, what's prevented Lundkvist from taking that next step?

He was thrown on the bottom pair this season with Nemeth who was really, really bad for the first half of the season. Nemeth has played better as of late, but that ideally was not the right early partner for him. He's also a puck mover who will never see powerplay #1 on our team with Fox, so he was given limited 3rd line minutes. I know fans and hockey media don't care much about +/-, but he was only a minus in 5 out of the 25 games he played. It wasn't like he was terrible. But Schneider has taken that 3rd line role and our coach wants Nemeth in the lineup for size. Lundkvist got better as the games went on. He was getting pushed around in the first handful of so games. That's not going to be his area of success.

 

[HabsAddict]

A very good and proven bottom six with outstanding defensive game for a B prospect that may never be.

The second has more value....but still...

No.

 

[PainForShane]

Finally a trade proposal that is relatively even and solves needs for both teams. As a neutral fan (AZ) I could see something like this happening. I was reading that MTL is looking for a first, but Lundkvist is a decent prospect so him + a 2nd or a 3rd probably equals a first you would think.

I do wonder if NYR can get more for Lundkvist elsewhere, there's a real shortage of RHD in the league right now. But absolutely no one would be surprised if a deal like this actually happened at the TDL. Great job OP

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Nope from Rangers

 

[HabsAddict]

He was getting pushed around in the first handful of so games. That's not going to be his area of success.

Nor are 1 goal and 4 points in 25 games for an relatively undersized "offensive" defenseman. We already have those and better is on the way.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Rangers fans, what's prevented Lundkvist from taking that next step?

Nothing, he's a first year NHL player coming over from Europe.

 

[TGWL]

A very good and proven bottom six with outstanding defensive game for a B prospect that may never be.

The second has more value....but still...

No.

I mean, you don't exactly get a really good A prospect for that, or a player that's going to be that in an even swap. If a player like Lehkonen is being traded, you're basically saying you don't expect to make playoffs (which they don't), and you need to get younger and build up your potential future roster with picks/prospects. I'm not sure holding out for a 1st is a better offer than this unless you feel Lundkvist doesn't have a future spot, which is a fair assessment, but I think any offer is going to involve prospect that may never be.

 

[SimGrindcore]

Lehkonen for Schneider and keep Lundkvist

 

[PainForShane]

Nor are 1 goal and 4 points in 25 games for an relatively undersized "offensive" defenseman. We already have those and better is on the way.

It's his first year in the NHL after being a standout in the Swedish League (yes, it's the Swedish League but still made up of professionals). He's also only 21. Way too early to write Lundkvist off

 

[Tripledeke333]

I love Lehkonen but I do this as a Habs fan.

 

[UnSandvich]

Lehkonen doesn't get Lundkvist on his own, let alone an add on top of that.

Counter-proposal:
Barclay Goodrow, 5th
for
Guhle, 2nd (lowest)

Bottom 6er and a 5th for the team's best D prospect outside the NHL and a 2nd. Because let's be clear, that's what OP is suggesting.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

That would be a good deal for both teams. The habs need RD. The rangers want Lehkonen, and have too many RDs.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Incoming @bernmeister novel about how the Rangers would trade a 6th for Lehkonen and nothing more.

Or that Kravtsov and Lundkvist have more value than Seider until “more sample is provided” due to their combined draft status

 

[WhoTagz]

He was thrown on the bottom pair this season with Nemeth who was really, really bad for the first half of the season. Nemeth has played better as of late, but that ideally was not the right early partner for him. He's also a puck mover who will never see powerplay #1 on our team with Fox, so he was given limited 3rd line minutes. I know fans and hockey media don't care much about +/-, but he was only a minus in 5 out of the 25 games he played. It wasn't like he was terrible. But Schneider has taken that 3rd line role and our coach wants Nemeth in the lineup for size. Lundkvist got better as the games went on. He was getting pushed around in the first handful of so games. That's not going to be his area of success.

Tbh I think Nemeth has played so much better or rather looked better due to playing with schneids.

 

[Savant]

Rangers fans, what's prevented Lundkvist from taking that next step?

Nothing really. They wanted to give Schneider a look because they wanted a bigger body back there and Schneider has absolutely deserved to keep his place. That’s not anything negative about Nils, just Schneider being very very good.

 

[WhoTagz]

Lehkonen doesn't get Lundkvist on his own, let alone an add on top of that.

Counter-proposal:
Barclay Goodrow, 5th
for
Guhle, 2nd (lowest)

Bottom 6er and a 5th for the team's best D prospect outside the NHL and a 2nd. Because let's be clear, that's what OP is suggesting.

What is the point of countering and taking out the main reason for the proposal? Goodrow has been a perfect fit for the rangers and there is no point in getting rid of him.

If Lundkvist doesn't fetch Lehkonen with or without an add then the trade will not happen. But to reiterate Gorton likes his drafted prospects and might just pay an arm and a leg to get them back

 

[WhoTagz]

Nothing really. They wanted to give Schneider a look because they wanted a bigger body back there and Schneider has absolutely deserved to keep his place. That’s not anything negative about Nils, just Schneider being very very good.

Also sending nils to the AHL to learn Na ice and get top mins to grow to not direct correlation with his play.

 

[Calad]

Rangers fans, what's prevented Lundkvist from taking that next step?

He played 25 games at the start of the season, looked okay but never really seized the moment. His partner was Nemeth and he had a dreadful start for us so that didnt help. Then they decided to give a few others a shot at 3rd pair RD and then when Braden Schneider played his first game they never looked back. From everything I've heard recently Nils has been great in Hartford. All it takes is 1 injury to our right side and he is likely playing with the big club

 

[admiralcadillac]

Oh look more Lehkonen is worthless but this prospect is worth way more talk… f*** it’s brainless