Confirmed with Link: NYR have Signed Igor Shesterkin and Vitali Kravtsov to ELCs (Confirmed by NYR)

[Levitate]

They shouldn’t, it’s really hard to juggle 3 goalies in practice

I mean it more as in if there are waiver issues at some point

 

[haveandare]

Regardless of what people want, I think it’s extremely likely that Georgiev is on another team by the end of next year and ends up being a solid but not star starter for a long time.

Sucks that we happen to have very nice depth at the one position that seems impossible to get good returns for.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Staal owes it to my eyeballs to retire.

He owes it to his own eyeballs.

well the one that works anyway

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

He owes it to his own eyeballs.

well the one that works anyway

He's the real igor

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Regardless of what people want, I think it’s extremely likely that Georgiev is on another team by the end of next year and ends up being a solid but not star starter for a long time.

Sucks that we happen to have very nice depth at the one position that seems impossible to get good returns for.

George was free, though. So free is free, frankly.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Best offseason ever.

Now we have three goalies. What are we doing?

Praying that Hank retires?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I could see something like:

Gyorg: 31 games
Hank: 31 games
Shestyorkin: 22 games

With Gyorg/Shestyorkin getting in some AHL time as well. Mainly Shestyorkin.

Not sure how down Hank is for that, though.

Would rather (If Shesty is ready):

George: 40 games
Shesty: 40 games
Hank: 2 games (home opener, home closer)

 

[bobbop]

Based on what? I've seen literally no indication of this being a possibility. It's ridiculous to say stuff like this.

I've actually seen him say in interviews he could see himself playing past his current contract. I don't think it's likely but there's more evidence of that being possible (him actually saying it) vs your conjecture based on...what? The fact that he's Swedish? That we have 2 young goalies? Oh yeah, the notoriously competitive Lundqvist is going to roll over and die and go home and quit instead of trying to prove he's still the best.

It’s partially based on intuition, young family, financial security and some speculation I have heard. Not firm or attributable...just trying to put two and two together. Not ridiculous.

 

[mrhockey193195]

BTW, lots of talk about loyalty here because people have a soft spot for Hank. But doesn't it work both ways? The Rangers made Hank incredibly wealthy. Why don't we want him to help them out as a sign of loyalty?

He already "helped them out" by carrying the team on his back for over a decade. He doesn't owe the Rangers any favors in terms of accepting a trade. He earned his NTC.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

He already "helped them out" by carrying the team on his back for over a decade. He doesn't owe the Rangers any favors in terms of accepting a trade. He earned his NTC.

And the Rangers don't owe him anything either, except salary which they agreed on. He still gets that in a buy out. I am not saying it is likely, but a buy out in 2020 could solve a lot of problems (If Shestyorkin proves to be the real deal)

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

And the Rangers don't owe him anything either, except salary which they agreed on. He still gets that in a buy out. I am not saying it is likely, but a buy out in 2020 could solve a lot of problems (If Shestyorkin proves to be the real deal)

What problems though? If Shestyorkin is the real deal, Georgiev is most likely going to be traded regardless if Hank is here or not

 

[SnowblindNYR]

He already "helped them out" by carrying the team on his back for over a decade. He doesn't owe the Rangers any favors in terms of accepting a trade. He earned his NTC.

So why do the Rangers owe him anything? It's part of his contract, fine. But people are making a case for loyalty, not that it's what's in their contract.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What problems though? If Shestyorkin is the real deal, Georgiev is most likely going to be traded regardless if Hank is here or not

Trading Georgiev and then keeping Lundqvist for another year before he retires is not really good management

 

[eco's bones]

It will be an interesting situation as far as our goaltending. A lot of pressure on Henrik to have a better year. Alex was the better goalie down the stretch and he wound up with the better numbers. Igor is coming in from a great KHL team to play for what looks like a mediocre NHL defense and is not battle tested yet for the NHL or 40+ shot nights--so I'll have to see him facing down all that before I anoint him as a better goalie than Georgiev. That's just fair as far as I'm concerned. Right now Alex is the No. 2 in my eyes with a real chance of being the No. 1 before the year is out.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

It’s partially based on intuition, young family, financial security and some speculation I have heard. Not firm or attributable...just trying to put two and two together. Not ridiculous.

Leaving 12.5 million dollars on the table provides financial security?

 

[Tawnos]

Leaving 12.5 million dollars on the table provides financial security?

He's saying that Lundqvist already has financial security.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

So why do the Rangers owe him anything? It's part of his contract, fine. But people are making a case for loyalty, not that it's what's in their contract.

Who gives a shit? It IS in his contract. His full NMC was earned by his play and given to him in his contract. You want people to change their feeling on this issue to match yours, christ just agree to disagree on the feelings end of it.

Some fans feel more loyalty to players than others. You're going on about your personal feelings on the issue when it's all irrelevant. He HAS a NMC in his contract. So whatever fans feel doesn't matter.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Leaving 12.5 million dollars on the table provides financial security?

Oh gotcha, still that's a lot of money to walk away from. And from Hank's comments, he doesn't strike me as a guy who's going to retire on his current deal. Every interview I've seen about this he always brings up he has 2 years left so he'll at least be here for that long. I think of this interview from the all-star break in particular @ 15:55:

That doesn't sound like a guy who's going to retire because he had a bad 6 weeks to end the season.

 

[offdacrossbar]

Would rather (If Shesty is ready):

George: 40 games
Shesty: 40 games
Hank: 2 games (home opener, home closer)

lol

so cruel

 

[haveandare]

Trading Georgiev and then keeping Lundqvist for another year before he retires is not really good management

Neither is keep two starters when you can move one for a return.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Trading Georgiev and then keeping Lundqvist for another year before he retires is not really good management

What’s the point of keeping him if Shestyorkin shows he’s better? Getting a marginally better trade return from a position that doesn’t return all that much value in trades to begin with?

 

[haveandare]

This idea that Goergiev is a sure fire starter and Hank is totally shot is one of the more ridiculous "what have you done for me lately" things on here in a long time.

If you don't care if we have a goalie who can win games because it's better for tanking or whatever, I disagree but that's a logical argument in some sense. But just this past season George had a long stretch where he was absolutely terrible and Hank had one where he was very very good.

 

[bobbop]

Leaving 12.5 million dollars on the table provides financial security?

Lundqvist can play in Sweden and make plenty of money playing and in endorsements. It really comes down to what he wants for his family.

 

[Harbour Dog]

It's also no coincidence that Hank's play went downhill when it became clear the playoffs were out of reach.

He's a competitor, and I am very confident that out of the gate next season, both Georgiev and Shesty are going to have their work cut out for them to supplant Hank.

They might do it, but it's laughable how many people are already writing him off. Too bad we never traded him and kept Talbot, so we'd know for sure the outcome of training camp...

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Who gives a ****? It IS in his contract. His full NMC was earned by his play and given to him in his contract. You want people to change their feeling on this issue to match yours, christ just agree to disagree on the feelings end of it.

Some fans feel more loyalty to players than others. You're going on about your personal feelings on the issue when it's all irrelevant. He HAS a NMC in his contract. So whatever fans feel doesn't matter.

Jesus relax. I know you're nevesis-lite when it comes to Hank, doesn't mean you have to blow a gasket whenever someone has an opinion of Hank that doesn't make him out to be Jesus.