Confirmed Trade: [NYR/FLA] Frank Vatrano for 2022 4th round pick

[flyerslducks]

shouldn't the same guy be equal to himself?

Maybe in another universe. But in this one, it’s quite the contrary

 

[egelband]

In a vacuum, price paid for player is good bargain bin hunting.
Unfortunately, it will cost more than McKegg + Hunt $ to extend so unless we win the Cup and he is instrumental, which odds are against, it will be a waste.
Exception would be if Trouba lets us deal him early, but that is also long odds.

Georgiev and Strome money will go too. I wouldn’t say re-signing is impossible. I suspect Nemeth gets moved too, but who knows.

 

[Daz28]

Somehow this doesn't make sense. Couldn't Florida have found a team in the west, or out of the playoffs to give them a 4th or 5th for Vatrano? You don't trade a roster player for draft picks to a team you may very well see in the playoffs??

 

[SML2]

Somehow this doesn't make sense. Couldn't Florida have found a team in the west, or out of the playoffs to give them a 4th or 5th for Vatrano? You don't trade a roster player for draft picks to a team you may very well see in the playoffs??

very few teams have the space to take a guy on with no salary retention right now. Maybe he's a loyal enough Panther that they just traded a spy into our locker room to feed them back information in case we meet in the playoffs...

Strategery....

 

[Daz28]

very few teams have the space to take a guy on with no salary retention right now. Maybe he's a loyal enough Panther that they just traded a spy into our locker room to feed them back information in case we meet in the playoffs...

Strategery....

Not buying either one.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Somehow this doesn't make sense. Couldn't Florida have found a team in the west, or out of the playoffs to give them a 4th or 5th for Vatrano? You don't trade a roster player for draft picks to a team you may very well see in the playoffs??

As someone else posted, Rangers had the cap space for the deal and while it would make for a gripping narrative, the chances of Frank Vatrano being the key to the Rangers beating the Panthers in the playoffs is, while not impossible, highly unlikely.

 

[namttebih]

Kraken just confirmed that Gio is not playing tonight, despite his 1000th game celebration, good chance he gets moved as well. No way to be sure but Vatrano getting traded right after could be related.

This is history repeating itself if the Leafs acquire Gio. See: Eric Brewer

 

[GAGLine]

In a vacuum, price paid for player is good bargain bin hunting.
Unfortunately, it will cost more than McKegg + Hunt $ to extend so unless we win the Cup and he is instrumental, which odds are against, it will be a waste.
Exception would be if Trouba lets us deal him early, but that is also long odds.

It's not a waste if he helps make us a better team this year, whether we win the cup or not. It's a 4th round pick and it's not even our best 4th round pick. The odds of that pick helping us more in the future than Vatrano will now is slim.

 

[Fireonk]

It's not a waste if he helps make us a better team this year, whether we win the cup or not. It's a 4th round pick and it's not even our best 4th round pick. The odds of that pick helping us more in the future than Vatrano will now is slim.

I mean, the odds are greater that Vatrano plays more games for the Rangers this season alone than whatever that 4th round pick would in total in the future.

For a team that basically has a playoff spot locked up and is fighting for home-ice advantage this is a no brainer, almost no-risk move.

 

[Kane One]

Somehow this doesn't make sense. Couldn't Florida have found a team in the west, or out of the playoffs to give them a 4th or 5th for Vatrano? You don't trade a roster player for draft picks to a team you may very well see in the playoffs??

If Vatrano is the reason the Rangers hypothetically beat the Panthers in a playoff series, then Florida had other problems.

 

[dixie]

Good luck to the Springfield Rifle,a deceptive goal scorer!

 

[Daz28]

If Vatrano is the reason the Rangers hypothetically beat the Panthers in a playoff series, then Florida had other problems.

So in a league of inches, smaller moves aren't relevant?

 

[Daz28]

As someone else posted, Rangers had the cap space for the deal and while it would make for a gripping narrative, the chances of Frank Vatrano being the key to the Rangers beating the Panthers in the playoffs is, while not impossible, highly unlikely.

Totally agree, but not only could he possibly improve the team, but he could also be flipped to another club for a guy that really could tip the balance. It's just a very odd trade

 

[Kane One]

So in a league of inches, smaller moves aren't relevant?

See my response to the one below:

Totally agree, but not only could he possibly improve the team, but he could also be flipped to another club for a guy that really could tip the balance. It's just a very odd trade

I think Florida just wanted him gone ASAP so they can immediately clear up cap space for a bigger trade. If that means Vatrano had to go to an East playoff team, that’s a worthwhile risk for them.

 

[bl02]

For the value probably best trade of the TDL. Definitely the most underrated one

 

[Lays]

5 mins into the game Vatrano scores 2 goals back to back within 20 seconds. Scored last game as well

4 goals for NYR so far. Already worth the 4th round pick we gave up

What a release this guy has! Sniped one of them like 5 feet from the blue line on a 2 on 1

 

[The Crypto Guy]

2 goals in the last 16 seconds. 4 goals in the last 3.1 games.

Can’t believe we got this guy for basically free!

 

[Dread Clawz]

I'm happy for Frank. He genuinely seems to care, and by all accounts was great in the room. He just couldn't get into our lineup.

 

[Taluss]

Got moved up to the first line as well btw

 

[Lays]

I'm happy for Frank. He genuinely seems to care, and by all accounts was great in the room. He just couldn't get into our lineup.

I honestly don’t even know if he’s in our healthy lineup

Kreider-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Strome-Copp
Lafreniere-Chytil-Goodrow
Blais-Motte-Reaves
Vatrano/Rooney/Hunt/Gauthier/Brodzinski

No one in that top 9 is getting scratched for Vatrano and he’s not a 4th line player. Maybe Chytil but he’s playing well lately and Goodrow is better on wing. Sure they can move Copp to 3C and Vatrano to either top 6 RW spot but Gallant seems to like Copp in the top 6

 

[elmaco]

I honestly don’t even know if he’s in our healthy lineup

Kreider-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Strome-Copp
Lafreniere-Chytil-Goodrow
Blais-Motte-Reaves
Vatrano/Rooney/Hunt/Gauthier/Brodzinski

No one in that top 9 is getting scratched for Vatrano and he’s not a 4th line player. Maybe Chytil but he’s playing well lately and Goodrow is better on wing. Sure they can move Copp to 3C and Vatrano to either top 6 RW spot but Gallant seems to like Copp in the top 6

Cant believe R. Strome is still playing, he looked DONE back in Edmonton.

 

[doomscroll]

Cant believe R. Strome is still playing, he looked DONE back in Edmonton.

186 points in 251 games with the Rangers. He’s got warts as a player and I prefer that Copp is prioritized in the off-season over him, but he was clearly utilized very poorly in Edmonton.

 

[Bruin4Life]

Love seeing him prosper but unfortunately this is the usual piece of the mystery of vatrano. Gets called up and looks like a stud. Has a snapshot that can compete with the best when hes got alot of space. Unfortunately he puts himself in weird spots and tries to do to much. He has wheels as well

 

[failure]

Cant believe R. Strome is still playing, he looked DONE back in Edmonton.

 

[TGWL]

Love seeing him prosper but unfortunately this is the usual piece of the mystery of vatrano. Gets called up and looks like a stud. Has a snapshot that can compete with the best when hes got alot of space. Unfortunately he puts himself in weird spots and tries to do to much. He has wheels as well

We didn't pay much and to be honest he's been a breathe of fresh air compared to other players we had in his spot/bottom 6 players. So even if this success disappears, it still wasn't a bad move to make. Anything that takes Hunt away from the top 6 is a good move. Laf was pushed to the 3rd line back on his original LW side, and Vatrano was given the top role with Kreider and Zibanejad. Is he a top line player? No. But it does help balance our roster out a bit.