Confirmed with Link: NYR Fire John Davidson and Jeff Gorton

[DialUp]

@Ginger Papa ... come bring us your cheer! We need this now more than ever!

 

[Number 9]

if this is happening I need giannone gone along with quinn. Those two

 

[Peltz]

Trading Zuccarello who's having the best season of his career this year, on pace for 70+ points. And Gorton let him go for basically nothing, a gamble deal that failed. I think Zucc would've been better value for the Trouba money, Dolan would probably agree...

No way. We have enough skill on the periphery of the offensive zone.

What am I even reading here? Zucc is a fan favorite and I love the guy, but the team's offensive production is one of the best in the league. We used that Zucc money to get ARTEMI f***ING PANARIN. Wingers are not our issue. Seriously... Stop.

After Trouba got injured, this team fell apart. If anything, he was the best leader in that locker room and the most physical presence on the D-line. He was also there to mentor the younger defensemen. Who else is going to do that? Smith?

 

[Greg02]

Much of this rings true but...the timing...I just don’t get it. If it was something coming down the pike, was the statement-distancing just the catalyst? Was this statement the beginning and the end? So interesting. What does this mean for the team going forward? Is this good or bad for Quinn?

In my rational James Dolan fanfic, it would have already been something being thought of, then the statement was put out as a method of injecting culture, and the opposition to it made it very clear that this isn't going to work.

I can't imagine that in either world this is good for David Quinn's tenure with the organization.

 

[SRHRangers]

if this is happening I need giannone gone along with quinn. Those two

LMAO

 

[DialUp]

Zipay retweeted this...lol

 

[rangers1314]

Wow this is literally my least favorite post of all time.

and that’s saying something.

Sam and JD have been friends for decades, at this age why would want to continue to work for a person who did his friend this dirty?

 

[mrhockey193195]

Of course he is. None of them have balls. Well Dave Maloney did but not sure so much now.

Sam and JD used to as well and the hammer dropped right around when JD left. Sam has never been the same since. Nobody is allowed to criticize or question the Rangers.

 

[Ruggs225]

No way. We have enough skill on the periphery of the offensive zone.

What am I even reading here? Zucc is a fan favorite and I love the guy, but the team's offensive production is one of the best in the league. We used that Zucc money to get ARTEMI f***ING PANARIN.

After Trouba got injured, this team fell apart. If anything, he was the best leader in that locker room and the most physical presence on the D-line. He was also there to mentor the younger defensemen. Who else is going to do that? Smith?

smith from all accounts is a great mentor.

he just happens to be a shitty player

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

 

[EdJovanovski]

Every single time you posted about JT Miller and "Tuba" is a diss. Pot calling Kettle here. But it's pretty on brand for you anyway.

If you were intellectually honest and have ever read a single DeAngelo thread on Reddit you would know that my "hatred" of Trouba or JT Miller is absolutely nothing in comparison.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

So they fire these two and not david quinn????

 

[egelband]

I can't piece it all together either. There's a major piece of the puzzle missing in this story still, maybe 2 or 3 pieces.

If it's performance based, why not wait until the end of the season next week? Why fire JD who has only been here for 1.5 years? Why not pin it on Quinn, who was a Gorton hire and who ultimately is responsible for on-ice performance? Why not recognize the strides the team has made in the last 3 years and see the trend is going up? I have more questions, but I think I've made my point...

So many questions....about what happened. And where this leads. Bizarre to say the least. I really like JD too. But if he wasn’t good with the Statement, I’d be hugely disappointed in him.

Maybe JD just felt his authority had been usurped? Could be that he was upset that Dolan went around him, rather than with the statement itself?

 

[Bevans]

I would assume this was going to occur in the summer regardless. Events of the last few days just sped it up.

 

[DanielBrassard]

How about the fact that 3 years ago with 2 first round picks they chose LA and FC and 3 years later we have basically gotten squat for that. By Year 3 these picks should have been a proven foundation for this team and one is gone and the other is still a question mark.

Sure, although I disagree about Chytil. I was more speaking to the amount of buyout money the Rangers have accumulated the past few years.

 

[Edge]

You think maybe giving ADA the contract in the first place and then basically firing him a few months later was part of the reasoning behind today’s bloodbath?

My initial response is "who knows?"

But at the same time, even knowing someone's past you don't expect shit to go this guano loco with a player.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Probably not for much longer, unless we do trade for Eichel. Then we are stuck with him lol.

Fortunately I don't think Dolan knows who Eichel is.

 

[Slaydagnar]

Henrik Lundqvist has been away from this franchise for one season and the entire thing collapses.

They should hire Lundqvist as President
Drury is not the guy for either role.
JD is too old. Gorton and staff deserved to be axed with horrific scouting and roster decisions. His team have been designed to fail miserably in post season play. Soft as charmin garbage scouting and coaching. I have wanted this the last three years. Rangers are a laughing stock failure of an organization.

 

[17futurecap]

Where is @Machinehead and how do we know he isn't the one in Dolan's ear?

 

[Peltz]

smith from all accounts is a great mentor.

he just happens to be a shitty player

That's a fair statement.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

I think this move is also a testament to how delusional some fan’s feelings on our management were. There was always this belief that they could do nothing wrong.

During the Panarin scandal, there were posters here actually suggesting that JD and Gorton negotiate with the Russian government and work to get Panarin’s family out of Russia. Like they have f***ing secret agents posted around the world!

When the Kravstov and Andersson situations happened last season, there was constant defense of the franchise. “Andersson is depressed!”

These guys f***ing manage a sports team. They’re not perfect - they’re very prone to mistakes.

 

[egelband]

In my rational James Dolan fanfic, it would have already been something being thought of, then the statement was put out as a method of injecting culture, and the opposition to it made it very clear that this isn't going to work.

I can't imagine that in either world this is good for David Quinn's tenure with the organization.

Me too. Unless Quinn has more tricks up his sleeve than we’re aware of.

 

[I Eat Crow]

I think it had to have played a role. It's poor management, if you knew the guy was a ticking time bomb, and was causing problems in the locker room why the hell would you even sign him to a multi-year deal?

I can't imagine Dolan was too thrilled to be flushing more millions down the drain as the Rangers sent one of their better players home for the season. Add on top of that the other buyouts, one for the face of their franchise. One for Shattenkirk 2 years after giving him a big contract and it adds up.

It makes a lot of sense. The past few months have been an absolute gong show. You have to figure that Gorton had Dolan's endorsement for the Lundqvist, Girardi, and Shattenkirk buyouts right? Maybe the impending DeAngelo buy out was the final nail in his coffin. To play Devil's Advocate, Gorton surely could not have predicted the events that transpired, but he did extend him in spite of having Trouba and Fox, along with good prospects in Schneider and Lundkvist, making him not long for the organization and not trading him when he could have gotten value for him.

I would have figured that Gorton's seat would have been warm next year if there was no playoffs, but maybe Dolan sees it as investing in Panarin and extending Kreider, and giving a fat contract to Trouba, plus the buyout money, that playoffs were an expectation this year.

Word gets to JD that Gorts is done at the end of the year. JD blows a gasket on Dolan and says that he's leaving too if Gorton is, and Dolan elected to fire them both, does make sense.

This was JD's swan song. He has a family and he's getting up there in age. I don't see him taking another front office job and see him electing to retire at this juncture.

 

[SRHRangers]

And the NHL Network is in complete spin control....

There's so much more to this story. Now I'm convinced.

 

[NYR94]

Next season for the Rangers better be the most drama free season ever after all the stuff that has happened this year. Too many off-ice distractions.