Confirmed with Link: NYR claim Cody McLeod

[Ratelleitlikeitis]

Taking a page out of the Romans bread and battles entertainment handbook, except now we'll have pugilism and Papa Johns ... Maybe.

 

[Siddi]

You couldn't pick a worse example than the Kings game. Not only did we already have a fighter in the lineup, he was the one who received the head shot.

You mean the game where the Rangers were up 2-0 and in control of the game untill "tough" guy Smith decided to gift the Kings with a fastlane back into the game?

 

[One Winged Angel]

Amazing. Let's go do a nosedive off the Brooklyn Bridge while we're at it as well, that's also a smart move.

 

[Fitzy]

Would've much rather just flipped a 7th to TBL for JT Brown before they waived him.

Not a big fan of the move, unless McLeod somehow makes the 4th line so poor that it forces AV to shorten the bench more often.

 

[CenturionOne]

Gorton probably figured AV needed a bodyguard to prevent the team from tarring, feathering and putting him on a pole in the Hudson,

 

[Thirty One]

Would've much rather just flipped a 7th to TBL for JT Brown before they waived him.

Not a big fan of the move, unless McLeod somehow makes the 4th line so poor that it forces AV to shorten the bench more often.

Hasn't really been AV's modus operandi in the past.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Hey so they sent down Catenacci, so if it's McLeod over Catenacci, who cares? They both suck, so it's nothing. I honestly don't care about this move, the team is going nowhere, shuffle the deck chairs on the sinking ship, whatever. I'll only be bothered by this if he ends up playing over someone like Lettieri as the season swirls down the drain. And as far as the "Why not call up someone?" goes, other than Nieves, there's really not anyone down there deserving of a call (I'm excluding Chytil and Andersson for various reasons). Tambellini sucks, Gropp has been garbage, and the guys that haven't been total cesspools like Fogarty, Fontaine, and Leedahl either aren't ready or are fringe players in their own right.

Hayes is coming back into the lineup, so I’m not sure who McLeod will be subbing in for after the all-star break. He sucks either way, and the team is already on a downward trend so does it really matter? This one move won’t bring Kreider/Shatty back, and AV still doesn’t know what defense is

 

[Nopuckluck]

No. Most of us never watched hockey before these past few weeks.

It was a rhetorical question, although based on some of the posts I wonder!

 

[Nopuckluck]

You couldn't pick a worse example than the Kings game. Not only did we already have a fighter in the lineup, he was the one who received the head shot.

Smith will fight, but he’s not a fighter. He’s a defender first and one that ideally moves the puck. This guys JOB is to fight and defend his teammates.

 

[romba]

Its clobberin' time boyssss!

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Anyone who thinks this bum should be in the lineup because he can fight is insane

Clearly what the team needs to a useless player

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

It was a rhetorical question, although based on some of the posts I wonder!

So you think the only explanation for people being unhappy that the Rangers added an objectively bad hockey player to their team is that they don't watch hockey and thus are less informed?

I think it's safe to say that on a message board dedicated to hockey, people who are posters on this board (and that are freaking out about a waiver pickup ) not only watch hockey, but are largely obsessed with it.

 

[Machinehead]

This isn't real right?

It gets worse.

We'll win his first game and have to read a novel worth of posts about how he brought energy and allowed our guys to "play big" or whatever.

Naturally, we'll get outshot 56-12 and Hank will pull Jedi mind tricks, but McCleod's "energy" will get the credit.

Hot dog, I can't wait to not watch that.

 

[East Coast Bias]

sorry, i cant get all bent out of shape over the 11th or 12th F while Hayes and Kreider are out; yes i do prefer playing the kids

what does make me smile is waiting for AV to tell the world Patrick Roy called him and said NYR were getting his best winger ....

When someone writes a book on the history of AV's tenure here, this needs to be the title.

 

[Thirty One]

I agree that it would be very helpful to have the opposition so afraid that they don't touch any of our players. I wonder why Nashville got tired of that.

 

[Nopuckluck]

So you think the only explanation for people being unhappy that the Rangers added an objectively bad hockey player to their team is that they don't watch hockey and thus are less informed than you and your galactic brain opinion?

My problem is there is more to hockey than just skill. There’s an element of physicality and intimidation. The Rangers have neither. Cody Mc is not a great hocke6 player, but every Ranger will now feel tougher and maybe play a little better and bigger knowing someone has their back

 

[romba]

Last gasp for AV, you got your Glass, now sink or swim.

No matter what happens, please keep AV for the year though, maximize losing potential and draft pick status.

 

[Machinehead]

I agree that it would be very helpful to have the opposition so afraid that they don't touch any of our players. I wonder why Nashville got tired of that.

Have you ever watched hockey?

 

[Gravey22]

curious move and definitely an AV player. Seen him play a bunch and he can be a wrecking machine. He catching you napping it will hurt. thought Franson was more of a move that would suit this coach. Curious , very curious.

 

[nyr2k2]

My problem is there is more to hockey than just skill. There’s an element of physicality and intimidation. The Rangers have neither. Cody Mc is not a great hocke6 player, but every Ranger will now feel tougher and maybe play a little better and bigger knowing someone has their back

So this is an argument that has been had on HF for at least 15 years that I can remember, and while there is SOME validity to the idea that these guys embolden other players (players themselves will say so), there's still the fact that they suck, and are demonstrably and quantifiably detrimental to putting pucks in the net and keeping them out. And you gotta understand you're in an infinitesimal minority and are about to get sucked deep into a chasm of hell that you want no part of.

 

[Machinehead]

So this is an argument that has been had on HF for at least 15 years that I can remember, and while there is SOME validity to the idea that these guys embolden other players (players themselves will say so), there's still the fact that they suck, are demonstrably and quantifiably detrimental to putting pucks in the net and keeping them out, and you gotta understand you're in an infinitesimal minority and are about to get sucked deep into a chasm of hell that you want no part of.

He's not kidding. Here's a live feed of me reading this thread right now

 

[Thirty One]

Have you ever watched hockey?

Once. On a dare.

 

[Machinehead]

So this is an argument that has been had on HF for at least 15 years that I can remember, and while there is SOME validity to the idea that these guys embolden other players (players themselves will say so), there's still the fact that they suck, and are demonstrably and quantifiably detrimental to putting pucks in the net and keeping them out. And you gotta understand you're in an infinitesimal minority and are about to get sucked deep into a chasm of hell that you want no part of.

Also "infinitesimal" is a fantastic f***ing word. I wish some of my students wrote shit like this.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

My problem is there is more to hockey than just skill. There’s an element of physicality and intimidation. The Rangers have neither. Cody Mc is not a great hocke6 player, but every Ranger will now feel tougher and maybe play a little better and bigger knowing someone has their back

My major issue with this opinion is that, aside from the fact that players of his ilk are basically extinct from the NHL, we have direct proof of that not working with this team, coach and players over the last 3 seasons.

AV had Glass as an everyday player and it (unsurprisingly) made the team worse, bottom line.

 

[eco's bones]

IMO, if Wilson or Reaves are going to take runs at them, they're going to do it with or without McLeod. It's been shown time and time and time again - fighters do not deter dirty players from playing dirty. It just doesn't happen.

If we want someone out there to do that kind of thing anyway, I have to imagine we could get someone who can play passable hockey for a pretty low price rather than continuing to insist on playing guys who really struggle with the actual game in order to have someone who can punch someone else on the ice.

Yeah that very well could happen and then McLeod 'could' (operative word) take a run at Ovechkin, Kuznetsov or Backstrom in the Caps case or Crosby, Malkin, Letang in the Pens case. Shit happens. As an example the Simmonds/McIlrath fight occurs because Simmonds runs and concusses McDonagh and the next game between the two teams McIlrath challenges Simmonds who declines at first and then decides to go with McIlrath after Dylan starts running at guys like Giroux. Just saying. You might not like McLeod--I'm not sure I do but he's got that old school mentality--he'll force the issue if given the chance. That's the way he is.

As far as f***ing Gerbe goes who the f*** needs him? Is he going to turn the team around anymore than McLeod? f***, no. This team is 80% not making the playoffs right now and might be 90% two weeks from now--the fact is I'd lay odds on it. And if we did squeak in we'd be lucky to win even one game let alone win a round.

Any particular game yeah I hope we win but there is a real silver lining to losing games now too--that's called better draft positioning. Gerbe only slightly if at all helps us to win games but we're at the point it's kind of futile to do that. Might as well have the goon.