Proposal: Nyr-cgy

[Gardner McKay]

the point is not that Stepan "is some castaway scrap"
but that despite what he is paid, despite what teams paid to acquire him, despite his ice time, and even despite his points,
he may not be considered by everyone as one of the top 40 C in the league,

Correct. He is not castaway crap. He is one of the highest producing Centers in the league.

Over the last three years he is 20th out of all C's in terms of production.

Since he entered the league in 2010-2011 he is 23rd among C's in terms of production.

He is more valuable and better than Backlund by a wide margin. However, Klein isn't really an attractive piece to Calgary.

If there was a deal to be done it would be Stepan + Skjei for Backlund + Hamilton, value wise.

 

[Paper]

Correct. He is not castaway crap. He is one of the highest producing Centers in the league.

Over the last three years he is 20th out of all C's in terms of production.

Since he entered the league in 2010-2011 he is 23rd among C's in terms of production.

He is more valuable and better than Backlund by a wide margin. However, Klein isn't really an attractive piece to Calgary.

If there was a deal to be done it would be Stepan + Skjei for Backlund + Hamilton, value wise.

And Hamilton is not castaway crap. He is one of the highest producing defensemen in the league.

Over the last three years he is 20th out of all D's in terms of production.

Since he entered the league in 2012-2013 he is 27th among D's in terms of production.

He is more valuable and better than Klein by an extremely wide margin. However, Stepan isn't really an attractive piece to Calgary when factoring in Monahan and Bennett down the middle.

If there was a deal to be done, there wouldn't be because Stepan isn't the piece the Flames need...Hamilton is.

 

[Gardner McKay]

And Hamilton is not castaway crap. He is one of the highest producing defensemen in the league.

Over the last three years he is 20th out of all D's in terms of production.

Since he entered the league in 2012-2013 he is 27th among C's in terms of production.

He is more valuable and better than Klein by an extremely wide margin. However, Stepan isn't really an attractive piece to Calgary when factoring in Monahan and Bennett down the middle.

Just out of curiosity, where did I or anyone say Hamilton is castaway crap?

Just a heads up, I didn't. No one was equating Klein = Hamilton.

No one is really arguing about Hamilton. However, many people in this thread are hilariously misinformed about Derek Stepan, saying Backlund was as good as Stepan.

I also acknowledged that it doesn't make sense for Calgary needs wise. I don't even know who you are arguing with.

 

[Paper]

yeah Boston felt cap squeezed and tried to make the best of it, but then even lost Boychuk too

Hamilton wanted out, it was reported ad nauseum especially after the fact. He priced himself so far out of his real value that Boston was forced to move him...and multiple teams tried to acquire him.

but why all the rumors, along with the make believe here, re moving Dougie out of Calgary so soon?

You mean the ones that Burke bluntly called idiotic and everyone backtracked and said that they hadn't 'confirmed confirmed' he was on the move? The team was bad for a stretch to start the season, every team that starts off so poorly when they are expected to improve has rumours (or more) swirling around. That's sports.

and fact is, this is sports. Just sports,
Any player moving twice within 2 years can be fairly labeled in bar-stool conversation as being dumped.
The "truth" of "the situation" is just insider trivia, and appearances are he's just a 24 year old who can't keep a job.

He wasn't dumped once. Let alone twice. Again, you're making **** up. He has played for two teams. One team desperately wanted to keep him but was forced to move him. The other team is still playing him and the fans are loving him. Can't keep a job? Are you high?

 

[Paper]

Just out of curiosity, where did I or anyone say Hamilton is castaway crap?

Just a heads up, I didn't. No one was equating Klein = Hamilton.

No one is really arguing about Hamilton. However, many people in this thread are hilariously misinformed about Derek Stepan, saying Backlund was as good as Stepan.

I also acknowledged that it doesn't make sense for Calgary needs wise. I don't even know who you are arguing with.

And when did I say Backlund was as good as Stepan or that Stepan was a castaway. Just a heads up, I didn't.

I've only really responded to the person who has repeatedly said that Hamilton was dumped twice and can't keep a job....That's far more hilarious than the suggestion that Backlund is as good as Stepan.

 

[Gardner McKay]

And when did I say Backlund was as good as Stepan or that Stepan was a castaway. Just a heads up, I didn't.

I've only really responded to the person who has repeatedly said that Hamilton was dumped twice and can't keep a job....That's far more hilarious than the suggestion that Backlund is as good as Stepan.

Never said you did.

I was agreeing with your post that I quoted. I was simply using what you said as a spring board to respond to previous posts.

 

[cwede]

...He wasn't dumped once. Let alone twice. Again, you're making **** up. He has played for two teams. One team desperately wanted to keep him but was forced to move him. The other team is still playing him and the fans are loving him. Can't keep a job? Are you high?

all i wrote was that IF Dougie got moved twice within 2 years, it could appear as if he couldn't keep a job, and it could fairly be said he was dumped, because the details don't always matter to everyone

please, pal, don't be so fired up over bulletin board chatter
we're all hockey fans here

 

[Paper]

but not much beloved kid,
about to be dumped twice before age 24?
.

cwede this was literally your first post about Hamilton. Because some Ranger fan posted a trade about grabbing Hamilton you somehow deduced that Hamilton was "not much beloved" and that he was about to be dumped twice...It's asinine opinion backed up by some crazy mental gymnastic circlular logic. "I don't want Hamilton because if we did acquire him, he wouldn't be wanted by the other team, therefore we shouldn't acquire him." It's crazy.

He wasn't dumped the first time, Boston wanted to keep him.

He hasn't been moved a second time, it's a Ranger fan 'trying to acquire him' and if the argument is that anytime a player gets traded they are "dumped" and therefore aren't beloved, this whole section should be closed because who wants unbeloved players on their team....

Hamilton is playing great on the top pair of our team. He has been for awhile, about the same time the Flames turned the corner and have now grabbed a playoff spot. There's nothing wrong with him. We're happy to keep him, especially if the only return is an overrated center like Stepan.