Confirmed with Link: NYR Acquire Jacob Trouba for Pionk and 20th Overall pick

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Boo Nieves is one.



New York is loaded with top hospitals. MSKCC. New York Presbyterian.

Don't blame her, Canadian hospitals are literal garbage. Just lost my great-uncle last week to a botched brain surgery on a tumor that they misdiagnosed several times as everything from CATARACTS, to glaucoma, to a soft tumor they could remove through his nose which they messed up, to a hard tumor they had to drill into his skull to perform which they messed up and allowed a bunch of air into his brain and didn't even successfully remove the tumor. He also couldn't get into a doctor to be checked in the first place because it's impossible to find a family doctor here, if he had access to care they perhaps could've taken care of the tumor before it grew to this size. Then the several month wait for an MRI.

Anyhow, that's really assuring and sounds like he's signing here long-term.
 
"with the 20th pick of the 2019 NHL Entry Draft, the Winnipeg Jets select, Defenseman Mauritz Seider"

Player Comparison : Jacob Trouba
Player Projection : Top pairing RH Defenseman

Funny you mention Seider as he was the guy I was hoping we'd take with our 20th pick. That said, I'm more than happy to have Trouba instead, a guy who's just 25 years old.
 
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I think it's safe to say 2 more D men from this team are now moved out of the picture. Who I don't know?

only guy this really impacts IMO is shattenkirk...they sent out a RHD so it didn't add to the overall numbers. but the hesitation to not move him cause he was the only veteran on the right side isn't an issue now. I think now they move him without hesitation if they can...

not sure it changes much though for smith and staal either way...unless they decide they need the extra cap space and buyout smith
 
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“Elliotte Friedman said on radio today before the Trouba trade that a lot of teams were in on Trouba and that the Jets were asking for a lot.
In a separate hit after the trade, he said multiple teams told him their package was better than what the Rangers gave up.”
 
Smith gets bought out.

That's the percentage, but there is still hope throwing him in vs a larger cap dump in a big deal could happen.

There is also an extremely remote chance we could do a deal with LVGK who feel they are getting enough to be worthwhile on the whole deal, and then figure, it's 2 years only, and his brother is a stud F for the team, so they do it.
Maybe we give cap relief, take back Clarkson +.
 
I'll say this much.

I had/have concerns over Troubas long term health given history and his brand of play that makes him attractive in the first place.

That said...slam dunk trade and I'd do it 7 days a week.

And I like Pionk. I think he got some flak on HFB he didn't deserve and still has untapped potential. But his place was limited. It was ADA or him with Fox onboard. ADA is close to a finished product and the team has capital invested in him, Pionk had to go in this trade for Trouba at minimum as a sweetener, I can't believe he was a prominent piece.

I have nothing negative to say about this acquisition. It's a homerun even if he doesn't sign, just to test drive him and see if he gets comfortable enough to want to stay, maybe even for less AAV if we can lock him up without UFA bidding next summer.

A+
 
The trade
New York Rangers receive Jacob Trouba
Winnipeg Jets receive Rangers 2019 first-round pick (No. 20 overall) and defenseman Neal Pionk
New York Rangers: A

For teams that want to address their defense, options are running out quickly. The Flyers grabbed Matt Niskanen for their top four and paid a premium to do it for a player who wasn’t coming off a great season. Erik Karlsson just got a massive contract that, if we’re being real, probably isn’t going to age well even if he’s one of the top three defensemen in the game. And now, Trouba is off the market.

He’s not a No. 1 defenseman but he’s a really good second-pair defenseman who can play on the top pair. He’s comfortable playing against the toughest competition. Without Dustin Byfuglien blocking the way, Trouba should be more of a regular on the power play.

“He’ll be a lot better on a different team,” said one NHL coach. “He’s more nuts and bolts – hard hat. … He’s strong on the puck. You’re not going to be scared (playing against him) but you know you’ll have to battle for the puck.”

“I like him but I don’t think he’s a brilliant guy with the puck,” said a Western Conference talent evaluator.

So yeah, at 25 years old, he’s still apt to make a questionable decision but that’s a positive of this deal – he’s still young. The Rangers are going to have to deal with a hard-lining agent in Kurt Overhardt, and if they extend the restricted free agent on a long-term deal, it’s probably going to be for more money than you want – likely at least $7 million per season. But that’s the price of poker. They knew that going in.

“I don’t like all the hassle and the angst about the contracts. But I do like Trouba,” said an NHL executive on Monday. “He’s a good player.”

And Trouba might have the perfect personality to play in New York because none of the outside noise bothers him at all. He’s a guy who has very publicly asked for a trade. His name has been in trade rumors for years. He can play under the spotlight without it seeping into his game.

“He has an aloofness to him that’s probably off-putting to a lot of people,” said one source who knows him well. “There’s some guys that will go anywhere or do anything for anyone. That’s not Jacob … there’s just some guys who don’t care about being in the limelight or being viewed positively outside of how they play.”

The beauty of this trade for the Rangers is that, even if they can’t extend him and things don’t work out in New York, there’s always the option to trade him at the deadline if necessary, where they can likely recoup what they gave up here, if not more.

 
I hope we dont buy anyone out both Smith and Staal can sit in the press box. Buying them out would only add 4m against the cap for the next 4 years. That's to much against the cap when we will be competing for the cup. I still believe with this trade, that we will sign him to a long term contract but having 4m against the cap in dead space is the wrong way to go. We can trade shatty or keep him and switch Staal and Smith I'd rather let them sit than lose that cap space

have to pay 'em, don't have to play 'em
 
It could also be that Winnipeg made a bad trade?

Having the extra 1st put the Rangers in a great spot.

That picking finishing 20th instead of 26th to 31st was also huge.

I mean if you’re the Rangers, the whole scenario with Winnipeg was like buying a stock and watching it climb and climb and climb.

They sign Hayes as an UFA out of college, and they keep him at center full time. He then develops his two way game at center giving him enhanced value, and then makes a case for being a second line center and not just a third line center.

The Rangers then trade Hayes to the Jets for Lemieux and what most figure is a picking between 26 and 31.

The Jets flop, the pick falls to 20th (nearly 19th).

The Rangers trade back said pick, along with a another guy they signed as an UFA out of the college, and get Trouba in return.

I mean that’s a hell of a yield on a five year bond, especially in the last 3 months. That or something out of the EA Sports playbook.
 
It’s funny that this guy said “when you do the research on him” regarding pionk...

This was one of the only guys that the analytics and the eye test both said absolutely sucked at hockey. What research did he do? Lol
 
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I think you’d be surprised at some of the conversations in which Pionk’s name has come up.
You said so on the podcast. I felt strongly about that too.

It’s funny how a fanbase can overvalue their player while undervalueing another teams player.

Or in this in case, the complete opposite.
 
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I really dont think gorton is done dealing. I think he wants to get back into the 1st round. Names, vesey, and krieder I believe will all be dealt one way or another.

2/3rd for vesey
Names whatever we can get
Krieder and something for a top 15 pick.

Free up another 13m in cap space. Have 23m available.

Sign trouba 7 years 7.5aav
Then sign a guy like Simmonds or Ennis that we can trade for next season for more draft capital .

Keep the rebuild moving
 
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