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Community said:
So we could use a #2D? More understandable, but I still think we should be set if the pairings work alright.

Rielly - McCabe/Brodie
Brodie/McCabe - Klingberg
Gio - Liljegren
Timmins

If we add a #2D I'd argue we have one of the best d-corps in the league. Right now it's a good group with the only question being if our #2 is good enough. Having McCabe, Brodie, or Klingberg on the 3rd pairing would be pretty crazy.

Marner scored 30 and 35 goals (25th in the league) over the past 2 years. You're severely underestimating his shot just because he's a much better playmaker.
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I don’t think that defence is good enough for 3 or 4 rounds.
I was bullish on Brodie all year and thought they should have given him a rest late in the season. I don't know if he was tired or injured but he look out of place in the playoffs.


Liljegren and McCabe could play on the bottom pairing, and Gio could be a 7.
 
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Nineteen67 said:
I don’t think that defence is good enough for 3 or 4 rounds.
I was bullish on Brodie all year and thought they should have given him a rest late in the season. I don't know if he was tired or injured but he look out of place in the playoffs.


Liljegren and McCabe could play on the bottom pairing, and Gio could be a 7.
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I don't trust Brodie on a lengthy run because he can be ear marked for the attrition game. Mid sized, not fast skater who plays mid tempo and handles a lot of puck retrieval duties and starts up the transition. Hit him early, often and make sure he's broken by Game 7.
 
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Fogelhund said:
It’s hard as a Leafs fan not to get all conspiracy theory about the reffing and DoPs in this league. Kadri, Bunting, the calls against, the calls not called when it’s us on the receiving end.

Kadri was one of my favourite Leafs, a shame how it went down. In hindsight the trade sucks, but most people also forget all of the internal runs ins he had with the org, internal suspension, publicly being called out, having team meeting with his parents….. great player a shame he lacked/s responsibility for his own actions.
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He was immature for sure when he first came up. Then he got to deal with Rotten Ronnie, who loved calling him "Nazzy", nothing there though, just the way he nicknamed his players like "Bozie" etc....

They really put him in his place at some point..........and he got better. The dude bled blue and white, Darcy Tucker like IMO.

His suspensions were out of whack compared to what the other team was getting away with.

Doesn't matter though, but that's why he was traded.

Then he goes to the AV's and gets suspended again in the playoffs if I remember correctly.

Then he won a Stanley Cup and is now making (let's look it up) righ........$7 million dollars for....

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Love ya Kadri. Congrats on the Cup and the ridiculous contract you secured!

I went up to a bar years ago when the Leafs were playing the Bruins.

I take a seat at the bar and there's a Leafs and Penguins fan sitting together. Pens fan says "hey, sweet Matthews jersey"

Well I was wearing a hoodie, so I guess he didn't see the name.

I said "oh, it's a Kadri jersey" and he had just been suspended for the rest of the series.

The guy goes "Kadri? They should send that guy back to Egypt"

.............WTF. I don't want to talk more about that, but that really blew my mind. I guess I live in a sheltered world. Had no idea people could be that ignorant.

What am I even on about? :)
 
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What's funny is that Marner would be the leading goalscorer on ~25% of teams and within a handful of goals of the goalscoring leader on another ~25% of the teams in the league.

It's pretty asinine to think he doesn't have an "nhl level shot".
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Actually, he would be the leading goalscorer on 6 teams: ANA, CHI, CBJ, MTL, NAS, and VGK.

26 teams: ARI, BOS, BUF(4), CAR, CGY, COL(2), DAL(3), DET, EDM(4), FLA(3), LAK, MIN(2), NJD(3), NYI(2), NYR(2), OTT(3), PHI, PIT(3), SEA, SJS, STL, TBL(2), TOR(3), VAN(2), WPG(2), and WSH all had players last year with more goals.

What's 'a handful'? With 20% more goals, he passes the leading scorer of CGY, DET, PHI, and SJS, but is still behind the top scorer (and often more) on 22 teams.

Of course, none of this is evidence that he has either a good or bad shot. How many were blistering slapshots? How many bounced in off his butt? The pure number is meaningless in this context.
 
Gary Nylund said:
Over the last 3 playoffs, Nylander has given us better bang for the buck than our other high priced bellhops, that's why I can't take seriously the idea that not trading him was a mistake.


We can play the what if game with any player. Nylander's just an odd choice for that game considering how good he's been in the playoffs last few years. He's played up to his cap hit and more, had all our star players done the same we might have a cup by now.


If pressure an excuse, then it really doesn't matter what Dubas did or what any GM does going forward, we're just doomed. Or was there something Dubas could have done in this regard?
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When one of more respectable playoff performer of last decade, left the team for the only reason of that pressure... i dont think you can consider this like an excuse but as a fact
 
Notsince67 said:
Just take a snapshot. Forum is just on repeat
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I spent a good 10 minutes of my life today trying to like Tie Domi again, since we got Max to look forward to?

It is absolutely the dog days of summer and I have so much to do. And Treliving has so much to do also, and hasn't done shit, so really nothing to talk about.......totally fine!
 
Fogelhund said:
No rational fan would choose a 35 win season repeated, over a 50 win seasons, plus 4-8 post season wins. More winning is always preferable, even if the target isn’t met.
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And yet these two guys want to get paid as if the target has been met multiple times over, when in reality they haven't even come close.
al secord said:
Your end goal as a fan is cheering on a mediocre team of try hards competing for participant ribbons?
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If the alternative is keeping Matthews and Marner and paying them as if they have won multiple cups? Absolutely!!!
 
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Gary Nylund said:
If beating TB in 6 shows character and heart, what does losing in 5 to Florida show? Our futures are depleted and considering how much we spent at the TDL, the organization as a whole is weaker. If you think be took a big step forward, we see things differently because from where I sit, we're further away from the cup than we were a year ago.
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Exactly.
 
Stephen said:
I don't trust Brodie on a lengthy run because he can be ear marked for the attrition game. Mid sized, not fast skater who plays mid tempo and handles a lot of puck retrieval duties and starts up the transition. Hit him early, often and make sure he's broken by Game 7.
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Brodie has good size it’s his foot speed that was his problem.

Yes, you need to make investments early in a series in hopes it pays off later.
 
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Maybe it makes sense to sign Willy on June 30, 2024. Nylander gets 8 years here for 71m or 7 years elsewhere for under 70m.

Pin Nylander and Marner against each other and sign the best deal of the two.

Knies Matthews Nylander/Marner
Bertuzzi Tavares ______
Domi ______ Jarnkrok
 
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New Details Emerge Concerning Nylander's Next Contract

Nylander's requests for his next contract have been revealed!
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It's rumored that Nylander wants to stay in Toronto. But to do so, he may have to accept a lower salary. As of now, he's reportedly looking for a $9M AAV contract.

As reported by Chris Johnston:

"I don't know what the number is - probably somewhere with a 9 in it. That might sound like a lot but he's making almost 7M right now. Once that cap starts jumping, we'll have a different view of what a $9M contract is. I believe Nylander wants to stay in Toronto. He's coming off a great season, a pretty established player... I think he wants to stay and there's a way to make it happen."
 
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ULF_55 said:

New Details Emerge Concerning Nylander's Next Contract

Nylander's requests for his next contract have been revealed!
www.hockeypatrol.com www.hockeypatrol.com

It's rumored that Nylander wants to stay in Toronto. But to do so, he may have to accept a lower salary. As of now, he's reportedly looking for a $9M AAV contract.

As reported by Chris Johnston:

"I don't know what the number is - probably somewhere with a 9 in it. That might sound like a lot but he's making almost 7M right now. Once that cap starts jumping, we'll have a different view of what a $9M contract is. I believe Nylander wants to stay in Toronto. He's coming off a great season, a pretty established player... I think he wants to stay and there's a way to make it happen."
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The problem with what you posted is It's about 5 weeks old

Nineteen67 said:
Why would you automatically assume they’d miss the playoffs?

Mitch Marner still cannot shoot at an NHL level, but he doesn’t have the work ethic to change it. Is that better, considering it kills their chances on the PP in the the playoffs?
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Because We've had those teams and they did miss the playoffs
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
The problem with what you posted is It's about 5 weeks old
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Actually, the problem is no one knows.

Does anyone have a single first hand quote from Nylander?

What everyone has is a requirement to get clicks, because each click is a cha-ching.

If they don't get clicks they don't get money.

I'm sure everyone here knows almost everything posted isn't about reality it is about cha-ching.
 
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Nineteen67 said:
Are you insinuating that the core will never win?
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not at all, you asked how we know a team with all hard workers and no stars would miss the playoffs.

The answer is we know that because we had it and they almost always missed the playoffs.

The only team that had mostly hard workers that made the playoffs was 2013 and that was due to a short season.

You can't make the playoffs in an 82 game season with no star power

Pure grit and hard work won't get you to the playoffs

what you want would be a complete failure
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
not at all, you asked how we know a team with all hard workers and no stars would miss the playoffs.

The answer is we know that because we had it and they almost always missed the playoffs.

The only team that had mostly hard workers that made the playoffs was 2013 and that was due to a short season.

You can't make the playoffs in an 82 game season with no star power

Pure grit and hard work won't get you to the playoffs

what you want would be a complete failure
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FYI, I didn’t post the tweet.

Can a core with no grit win?
 
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