Nylander contract talk VI

[crump]

Trying to imagine Dubas using some of the arguments in this thread for the real negotiations. It’s fun try it.

 

[ZEBROA]

was playing with google translate:

****a vara girig, Willy


edit. filters caught it as a bad word. the first Swedish word was: s_l_u_t_a
Can't imagine what it thought I said

Haha! Nice one Yeah i just quoted Salming...

 

[DueDiligence]

1. Tax isn't as straightforward as 'apply x provincial/state and federal rate'; for rich athletes who travel a lot there are various loopholes and ways to minimize taxes payable

2. Playing in Canada gives the advantage of exchange rate since contracts are paid in USD

3. While Toronto has higher cost of living, TB has nowhere near the same endorsement opportunities. Stars get treated like royalty here and will milk all the sponsorships and endorsements possible

Sorry to shoot down your argument but:
1) If he played for a Florida team or Dallas or Las Vegas his taxes would be much lower. (no state taxes)
2) Things cost more in Canada ( ie. Housing) which offsets being paid in USD
3) Endorsement money is going to Matthews, Tavares possibly Marner and that's it!!!

 

[Mikeyg]

Another day closer to resolution, either he signs soon or his ass is on a deadeye to arizona or some other dumpster.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Because a second pair is almost as important as a first pair. The leafs have zero players ready to handle those minutes. Dermott is borderline but only with the help of a solid 2nd pair partner which we don't have.

Also because he has enough trouble handling his strong side as it is.

 

[TheBigThree]

ive said it before, but I really am interested next offseason if marner is in this situation. Marner's agent is similar to nylanders in that he is known to keep clients out longer before signing. A couple of posters are so personally offended by nylander right now it seems like they wont even want him to succeed after he signs

No way, marner is my favorite player and so much better than nylander, more potential and doesn't run away from contact so he deserves what he gets next season. I doubt he'll hold out, I doubt matthews holds out either, nylander everyone expected to be an asshole like his father either that or his father is pulling the strings behind the scenes. This is why he dropped in the draft to 8th because everyone knew about his father and thought nylander would have character issues.

 

[bionic]

Sorry to shoot down your argument but:
1) If he played for a Florida team or Dallas or Las Vegas his taxes would be much lower. (no state taxes)
2) Things cost more in Canada ( ie. Housing) which offsets being paid in USD
3) Endorsement money is going to Matthews, Tavares possibly Marner and that's it!!!

Wrong on all accounts but especially wrong on the endorsement deals. In fact Nylander already has a nice endorsement he just announced two days ago from Reebok Canada. An endorsement he wouldn't have received if he was in Florida Dallas or Vegas.

 

[Critical13]

No way, marner is my favorite player and so much better than nylander, more potential and doesn't run away from contact so he deserves what he gets next season. I doubt he'll hold out, I doubt matthews holds out either, nylander everyone expected to be an ******* like his father either that or his father is pulling the strings behind the scenes. This is why he dropped in the draft to 8th because everyone knew about his father and thought nylander would have character issues.

That is some pure, unsubstantiated bullshit.

I have a feeling you just gained a ton of Ignores.

 

[Nithoniniel]

1) If he played for a Florida team or Dallas or Las Vegas his taxes would be much lower. (no state taxes)

I think that was his point. It's not that simple. It's way out of my expertise, but from what I've gathered taxes in the state where they play matter less than people think given how much time players spend working on the road. Something like that.

3) Endorsement money is going to Matthews, Tavares possibly Marner and that's it!!!

Willy already got some, so this is obviously false.

 

[TheBigThree]

That is some pure, unsubstantiated bull****.

I have a feeling you just gained a ton of Ignores.

How about you read his scouting reports dated before the draft. Oh right you signed up in 2017, doubt you even where a leaf fan when they were trash

 

[FreeBird]

Not sure why. Willy has made it clear he doesn't like physical contact

No doubt Haley would own him.

 

[DueDiligence]

I think that was his point. It's not that simple. It's way out of my expertise, but from what I've gathered taxes in the state where they play matter less than people think given how much time players spend working on the road. Something like that.


Willy already got some, so this is obviously false.

Were we not talking chump change; we are talking REAL dollars. Tell me what he endorsed that was worth more than free pizzas for a year!

 

[57 Years No Cup]

That is some pure, unsubstantiated bull****.

I have a feeling you just gained a ton of Ignores.

The ignore list is a refuge of the weak minded who only want to see opinions like their own. Enjoy your echo chamber.

 

[DueDiligence]

Wrong on all accounts but especially wrong on the endorsement deals. In fact Nylander already has a nice endorsement he just announced two days ago from Reebok Canada. An endorsement he wouldn't have received if he was in Florida Dallas or Vegas.

Well based on all I have read that endorsement deal is worth maybe $100,000 per year. That is nothing compared to higher cost of living and increased taxes in Canada. Also, Steve Stamkos 's endorsements are in the $1.5 million /yr which shoots down your Florida theory.

 

[Critical13]

How about you read his scouting reports dated before the draft. Oh right you signed up in 2017, doubt you even where a leaf fan when they were trash

That definitely explains my Mogilny and Kaberle jerseys...

The ignore list is a refuge of the weak minded who only want to see opinions like their own. Enjoy your echo chamber.

Nah, it’s good for ignoring people who are trolling or constantly instigating, especially f they run away when faced with facts or they turn to insults.

 

[Kiwi]

No way, marner is my favorite player and so much better than nylander, more potential and doesn't run away from contact so he deserves what he gets next season. I doubt he'll hold out, I doubt matthews holds out either, nylander everyone expected to be an ******* like his father either that or his father is pulling the strings behind the scenes. This is why he dropped in the draft to 8th because everyone knew about his father and thought nylander would have character issues.

Congratulations, I honestly didn't think this thread could get worse but you proved me wrong

Marner is your favorite player so he deserves whatever he gets? You realize there's a salary cap and he's an RFA without arb rights like Nylander?
We should play hard ball and screw him to just like Nylander, that's how this works

Sitting out and trying to get a better deal isn't a character issue, it's business and he's trying to use the leverage he's got to get a better deal just like we are

The ignore list is a refuge of the weak minded who only want to see opinions like their own. Enjoy your echo chamber.

I've never ignored anybody on here and dont agree with it but that comment mind-numbing to a spectacular degree

 

[DueDiligence]

Wrong on all accounts but especially wrong on the endorsement deals. In fact Nylander already has a nice endorsement he just announced two days ago from Reebok Canada. An endorsement he wouldn't have received if he was in Florida Dallas or Vegas.

After rereading this do you even know what you are talking about? Do some friggin research and back up your opinion.

 

[kindalaidback]

How about you read his scouting reports dated before the draft. Oh right you signed up in 2017, doubt you even where a leaf fan when they were trash

yeah, because the date of signing in on hf boards determines how long you've been a fan.

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This is why he dropped in the draft to 8th because everyone knew about his father and thought nylander would have character issues.

shanahan has known nylander for 10+ years. he wanted the leafs to draft him. don't you think the leafs know better whether or not william has 'character issues'? i bet they do.

 

[Walshy7]

No way, marner is my favorite player and so much better than nylander, more potential and doesn't run away from contact so he deserves what he gets next season. I doubt he'll hold out, I doubt matthews holds out either, nylander everyone expected to be an ******* like his father either that or his father is pulling the strings behind the scenes. This is why he dropped in the draft to 8th because everyone knew about his father and thought nylander would have character issues.

ok well, we will see next year when marners agent (an agent known for holdouts) hasnt had marner sign a contract if that happens i look forward to your mental gymnastics as to why nylander is a POS and marner is still a god

 

[GoldenGOOSE]

Only one stating Willy would be difficult to sign was me. Cracks me up to see a post saying most here expected this. No one expected this. Which is why it's happening.

 

[PromisedLand]

Only one stating Willy would be difficult to sign was me. Cracks me up to see a post saying most here expected this. No one expected this. Which is why it's happening.

You expect similar games with Mitch and Auston?

 

[Farsailor]

Only one stating Willy would be difficult to sign was me. Cracks me up to see a post saying most here expected this. No one expected this. Which is why it's happening.

The rumor is Willy has now told Borje to call you and check what the right offer is.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

The rumor is Willy has now told Borje to call you and check what the right offer is.

LOL.

 

[Notsince67]

Well based on all I have read that endorsement deal is worth maybe $100,000 per year. That is nothing compared to higher cost of living and increased taxes in Canada. Also, Steve Stamkos 's endorsements are in the $1.5 million /yr which shoots down your Florida theory.

This has been talked about extensively a while back. With the proper tax structure, Canadian taxes could be reduced to as low as 25% for these guys. That means that if you include the high property taxes in these other jurisdiction, they may have lower taxes in Canada

 

[Notsince67]

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The ignore list is a refuge of the weak minded who only want to see opinions like their own. Enjoy your echo chamber.

I ignore people who are insulting or threaten to ignore other people.