Nylander contract discussion - New Poll

[Divine]

Depends if its a sign and trade.
Would need to be a team like cbj who have elite D prospects, or njd who don’t really need nylander.

Interesting tho

Meier wasn't a sign and trade

He was an RFA with a 10M qualifying offer straight to UFA

 

[Canucks LB]

Meier wasn't a sign and trade

He was an RFA with a 10M qualifying offer

Which makes it worse honestly

I would much rather have nylander in a sign and trade

 

[Gary Nylund]

Depends if its a sign and trade.
Would need to be a team like cbj who have elite D prospects, or njd who don’t really need nylander.

Interesting tho

I don't see CLB who has no shot at winning the cup this season being so interested in having Nylander for a few months, that they'd trade elite prospects for him.

 

[arso40]

The Leafs are losing one of Marner or Nylander

Trade Nylander while he's hot because Marner has outplayed him every season to date

Marner has outplayed nylander with every advantage possible not saying marner wasn’t the better player but nylanders gotten second handed treatment cause of marner and now that he’s clearly better we’re gonna trade him to solve our problems and continue to give the keys to marner and Matthew to have more of the same the eye test says he’s our best player I am not trading my best player that wants to stay on the team not a chance

 

[Divine]

The only way we're getting an elite #1D for Nylander is if it's a rental. Do you have someone specific in mind and are you sure you'd rather not resign him?

I don't think losing Tavares and spreading him cap hit over Nylander/Marner/Matthews makes the team any better

The Leafs need to disperse their cap space. Explore getting an elite D.

Pick your poison - Nylander or Marner? Marner has a full NMC, Nylander doesn't. The Leafs can't lose Nylander for nothing.

 

[Canucks LB]

I don't see CLB who has no shot at winning the cup this season being so interested in having Nylander for a few months, that they'd trade elite prospects for him.

I don’t think anybody is looking at nylander as a rental trade.

Doing up multiple assets for a couple months makes no sense, when it comes to elite players

 

[kb]

The Leafs are losing one of Marner or Nylander

Trade Nylander while he's hot because Marner has outplayed him every season to date

Why are they losing one?

 

[Divine]

Marner has outplayed nylander with every advantage possible not saying marner wasn’t the better player but nylanders gotten second handed treatment cause of marner and now that he’s clearly better we’re gonna trade him to solve our problems and continue to give the keys to marner and Matthew to have more of the same the eye test says he’s our best player I am not trading my best player that wants to stay on the team not a chance

So what's your strategy?

Lose Tavares to UFA and spend the same money on the Core 3 instead of the core 4?

Why are they losing one?

Cap space

Nylander is making under 7M this year. I bet you he's not making under 7M next year.

Next year, Marner needs to be re-signed. He wanted 11M as a RFA - what do you think he wants as a UFA?

 

[arso40]

So what's your strategy?

Lose Tavares to UFA and spend the same money on the Core 3 instead of the core 4?

Your not going to spend the same money on the 3 of them it’s more like spending the 35 on 3 players I’m sure we can round the roster with the rest

Your not going to spend the same money on the 3 of them it’s more like spending the 35 on 3 players I’m sure we can round the roster with the rest

I’m not trading nylander…..simple

 

[BallardEra]

 

[Divine]

Your not going to spend the same money on the 3 of them it’s more like spending the 35 on 3 players I’m sure we can round the roster with the rest

That makes no sense.

Currently:

Matthews is going from 11.6M to 13.5M (on a 4 year deal)
Marner is going from 10.9M to ?
Nylander is going from 6.9M to ?
Tavares is going from 11M to ? (Does he walk?)

Fill in those contracts

 

[ACC1224]

Leafs need to seriously explore trading Nylander

He's nearly leading the league in points. Currently has twice as many points as McDavid. Nylander for McDavid plus a 1st?

But seriously - Meier got 2 1st's last year. What does Nylander get? An elite #1D?

The poll results are looking funnier everyday

 

[arso40]

That makes no sense.

Currently:

Matthews is going from 11.6M to 13.5M (on a 4 year deal)
Marner is going from 10.9M to ?
Nylander is going from 6.9M to ?

Fill in those contracts

Identical 8 year 11 mill contracts one is not more important that he other letter or not

 

[sunstersun]

That Swedish scout for the leafs says it well. The league is moving towards gamebreaking skill. AKA McDavid speed.

Nylander has that perfect set of playmaking, shooting and speed. He can create offence simply by existing.

He probably is the Leafs best player over Matthews.

 

[Judas Tavares]

I will say this, this is the only market where is it's like:

"This guy isn't good enough, he isn't earning his money, ship him out of town!"

"This guy is now playing too well, he's gonna deserve the money he gets which is too much, ship him out of town!"

 

[Divine]

Identical 8 year 11 mill contracts one is not more important that he other letter or not

You think Marner signs for 11 as a UFA when he signed for 11M x 6 as an RFA?

Marner thinks he's as good as Matthews

 

[kb]

So what's your strategy?

Lose Tavares to UFA and spend the same money on the Core 3 instead of the core 4?



Cap space

Nylander is making under 7M this year

I bet you he's not making under 7M next year. The year after, Marner needs to be re-signed. He wanted 11M as a RFA - what do you think he wants as a UFA?

So even at $11 million, they only need $4 million extra. Right now they have nearly $35 million available, with 11 signed. All 3 current $11 million players counted already.

They have more than enough cap space to keep both.

 

[Divine]

So even at $11 million, they only need $4 million extra. Right now they have nearly $35 million available, with 11 signed. All 3 current $11 million players counted already.

They have more than enough cap space to keep both.

What are your contract guesses:

Matthews - 13.5M X 4
Marner - ?
Nylander - ?
Tavares - ? (I assume he walks if we sign the top 3, so we need to replace a PPG centre for cheap - not happening)

 

[arso40]

You think Marner signs for 11 as a UFA when he signed for 11M x 6 as an RFA?

Marner thinks he's as good as Matthews

Well then it’s been fun …… he can walk we can spend that 11 million on other parts and move forward he can decide where he wants to play you cannot spend 7 mil any Breyer than nylander and he’s worth every bit of 11 mill

 

[Divine]

Well then it’s been fun …… he can walk we can spend that 11 million on other parts and move forward he can decide where he wants to play you cannot spend 7 mil any Breyer than nylander and he’s worth every bit of 11 mill

It makes no sense to let Marner walk

How did Calgary turn out when Gaudreau walked?

You can't even trade Marner against his wishes until UFA because of his NMC

Nylander can be traded

 

[arso40]

It makes no sense to let Marner walk

How did Calgary turn out when Gaudreau walked?

You can't even trade Marner against his wishes until UFA because of his NMC

Nylander can be traded

We don’t care about Calgary first off they were never as talented so bad comparable I don’t want marner to leave but matthews is the top of the cap I dont Pay him a penny over 11 that’s more than fair

 

[Divine]

We don’t care about Calgary first off they were never as talented so bad comparable I don’t want marner to leave but matthews is the top of the cap I dont Pay him a penny over 11 that’s more than fair

Sure - I agree with you.

Calgary finished 4 points behind the Leafs but won their division and made it further in the playoffs before Gaudreau and Tkachuk left. That 'never as talented' is ridiculous.

But assuming Marner takes 11M x 8 when Matthews got 13.5M x 4 given his last contract was held up because he wanted 10.9 x 6 (or more - he wanted Matthews money) as an RFA seems very doubtful

Maybe Marner has a change of heart and doesn't think he's as good as Matthews now - looking doubtful though.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I don't think losing Tavares and spreading him cap hit over Nylander/Marner/Matthews makes the team any better

The Leafs need to disperse their cap space. Explore getting an elite D.

Pick your poison - Nylander or Marner? Marner has a full NMC, Nylander doesn't. The Leafs can't lose Nylander for nothing.

Your idea of trading Nylander for an elite #1 Dman is a pipe dream, not happening. Full stop.

I don’t think anybody is looking at nylander as a rental trade.

Doing up multiple assets for a couple months makes no sense, when it comes to elite players

I don't understand this post at all.

1)
Teams trade multiple assets for "a couple of months" happens all the time, like every single season at the TDL.

2)
If the Leafs make Nylander available at the TDL, I'm sure there will be a ton of teams interested.

 

[notDatsyuk]

So what's your strategy?

Lose Tavares to UFA and spend the same money on the Core 3 instead of the core 4?



Cap space

Nylander is making under 7M this year. I bet you he's not making under 7M next year.

Next year, Marner needs to be re-signed. He wanted 11M as a RFA - what do you think he wants as a UFA?

So at that point you have to choose between Nylander at $11M and Marner at $12M?

That's easy - keep the better player, who's also getting paid less.

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

Would be nice if Willy and Marner went to each other and just agreed privately to take matching $10M deals on their next contracts. Problem solved