Confirmed Trade: [NYI/CHI] #18 and #50 for #20, #54, and #61 (ALL '24 Picks)

[Bizz]

horrible trade for Chicago lol

 

[bossram]

It's not strange at all if Chicago has further moves they're trying to make.
They can package #18 and #34 to move even further up if they really have a target in mind.

Yeah....but as many others have said, they don't actually know who is on the board at this point. Usually this kind of trade is made at the draft when you move up and get the guy you want.

So it's kinda bizarre to do it now.

 

[archangel2]

just to move up a couple of spot? Strange trade

 

[The Crypto Guy]

So f***ing odd by Hawks.

Yes, it “may” turn out to be something great if they end up getting somone at 18 thst were going to be taken by the Isles or whoever has 19, but you don’t know that now. And you dont trade a 2nd for that now lol.

Isles with basically win a free second here.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Hawks are probably setting themselves up now to try to get close to the top 10 or above. They might not value the second round this year, it’s definitely worse than last year.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Yeah....but as many others have said, they don't actually know who is on the board at this point. Usually this kind of trade is made at the draft when you move up and get the guy you want.

So it's kinda bizarre to do it now.

If the Hawks are trying to move up to #12 or so, this makes total sense.
Get this done now so you're not scrambling trying to make 3 trades on draft day.
Now you only have to make 1 or 2 and you have a month to set it up.

 

[OTC]

Can someone tell me why the f*** Chicago would do this deal without even knowing what player would be available at 18 and 50??

I must be missing something right? Surely the valuation of moving up 2 spots in R1, and 4 spots in R2, BLINDLY, is not at the cost of an additional 2nd rounder.

This has to be the stupidest trade I think I've seen in a while. And to think Luo Lamerillo of all people got the best of someone is even more hilarious

someone smarter than me please explain this

TIA

Maybe The Hawks are not done. Possible trade down. Flip picks +player

 

[JaegerDice]

horrible trade for Chicago lol

By PuckPedia’s draft value model, its fairly even with Chicago slightly ahead. Chicago would have had to send NYI a 5th to even out the gap.

 

[HFpapi]

Seems like a completely useless and pointless trade without knowing how the draft shapes up and who is available where lol like seriously, why even do this? Boredom?

 

[Puckrobber]

Maybe Chicago has a trade in mind for a top-end player, where they needed a higher 1st Rd. pick in order to facilitate it? Granted, it's only 2 spots, but, you never know.

 

[bossram]

If the Hawks are trying to move up to #12 or so, this makes total sense.
Get this done now so you're not scrambling trying to make 3 trades on draft day.
Now you only have to make 1 or 2 and you have a month to set it up.

But there is no guarantee whoever they would want at 12 will even be available.

Like no, it doesn't really make sense. Now say they make another draft payment to move up the board again. And then it's draft day and the guy they wanted is picked at 11. What...was the point of bleeding the picks? To not get the guy you want?

 

[EddieTheEagle]

I love this for the Hawks.

For those that don't follow the team, they already have A LOT of draft picks made and draft picks to make, with limited availability on contract slots.

This provides them with "better" picks that they can either select a "faller" more easily or as others have said, package picks up to get better quality.

If the Hawks select 2nd and like 12th in this draft, that is amazing for the team and something we really need. Even if it costs them another second.

It is about time the Hawks spent more of their draft capital to acquire better or NHL-established assets.

 

[bossram]

Maybe Chicago has a trade in mind for a top-end player, where they needed a higher 1st Rd. pick in order to facilitate it? Granted, it's only 2 spots, but, you never know.

This makes more sense. They're targeting an NHL player and the team won't let him go unless they get a high-end pick+ in return.

 

[PAZ]

Either setting up a trade or their list has a huge drop after #18.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

But there is no guarantee whoever they would want at 12 will even be available.

Like no, it doesn't really make sense. Now say they make another draft payment to move up the board again. And then it's draft day and the guy they wanted is picked at 11. What...was the point of bleeding the picks? To not get the guy you want?

Maybe they are assessing how the draft board is going to shake out and are happy with 3 guys that would be available in that 12th slot and they are obviously fairly confident one of them will be there.

This would fall in line with selecting Demidov at 2 and then a D in that second pick.

 

[PWJunior]

I'm confused at why this deal was made now instead of at the draft. Usually it's because there's a guy they like that's still available so unless this is part 1 of another deal or Chicago knows exactly who is going to be taken in the first 17 picks, I don't understand why this trade couldn't wait.

Lou's carrier pigeon scheduled for Draft day got hit with some cocaine on the way and arrived in Chicago way too early... a possible plot for Cocaine Pigeon, the sequel to Cocaine Bear with a sprinkle of Draft Day.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

But there is no guarantee whoever they would want at 12 will even be available.

Like no, it doesn't really make sense. Now say they make another draft payment to move up the board again. And then it's draft day and the guy they wanted is picked at 11. What...was the point of bleeding the picks? To not get the guy you want?

No guarantee but then you're still picking 12th, not 18th or 20th.

Who may be available at #12? Iginla, Yakemchuk, Jiricek, Catton, Buium? None of those guys should be there at #18 or #20.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Typical monkeys standing on a keyboard in this thread saying it's a horrible trade. They traded a very late 2nd rounder to move up 2 spots in the 1st and 4 in the 2nd. Quality over quantity and they'll need the contract space going forward.

Not to mention they have over a month to use their newly-improved draft position to move up further if they can find a partner. They improved 2 of their earliest 4 picks while giving up a late 2nd. Do you guys think before you type or just prefer to keep it reactionary like the meatheads you are?

 

[LG18]

Imagine declaring a winner or a loser on a trade involving only draft picks that haven't been made yet.

 

[Petey O]

Lol absolute no brainer for Lou. Don’t understand what Chicago’s doing here.

 

[u2wojo]

Either setting up a trade or their list has a huge drop after #18.

Or their internal list has a huge drop at even 16, or 17. It is one thing to be in a position hoping a team or 2 has a different evaluation of just one or 2 guys then hoping 3 or 4 "reach".

 

[KingsFan7824]

Quality over quantity and they'll need the contract space going forward.

If the draft was that linear and scientific, sure. Once you get passed the first, half, and that's probably generous, of the 1st rd, you're probably picking a guy to pick a guy because you have to pick a guy. Even the top 10 is questionable.

The lower you go in the draft, you probably want quantity over quality. Look at various 2nd and 3rd rds in draft history. Nobody know who the quality is.

 

[Bizz]

By PuckPedia’s draft value model, its fairly even with Chicago slightly ahead. Chicago would have had to send NYI a 5th to even out the gap.

PuckPedia is absolutely worthless. You may as well just ask ChatGPT.

 

[x Tame Impala]

If the draft was that linear and scientific, sure. Once you get passed the first, half, and that's probably generous, of the 1st rd, you're probably picking a guy to pick a guy because you have to pick a guy. Even the top 10 is questionable.

The lower you go in the draft, you probably want quantity over quality. Look at various 2nd and 3rd rds in draft history. Nobody know who the quality is.

That's true but we already have a deep prospect pool with a lot more depth coming through the next few years. Going forward the Hawks have...

Their 2025 1st, Toronto's 2025 1st, their 2025 2nd, Dallas' 2025 2nd, their 2026 1st and 2nd, NYI's 2026 2nd, and Toronto's 2026 2nd.

So between now and the 2026 draft they'll have 5 1st round picks and 6 1st round picks. They'll be just fine. They've already got the quantity on the way, may as well bolster some of those picks and improve the quality where possible

 

[bossram]

No guarantee but then you're still picking 12th, not 18th or 20th.

Who may be available at #12? Iginla, Yakemchuk, Jiricek, Catton, Buium? None of those guys should be there at #18 or #20.

Yeah but they probably like some of those guys, and don't like some of them.

Some will be there, some won't.