Confirmed Signing with Link: [NSH] F Steven Stamkos signs with the Predators (4 years, $8M AAV)
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General Fanager
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They never really treated him right when it came to contracts. Meanwhile they bow down to Hedman....
its wierd....
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And even at 5v5 Stamkos enjoyed such a dispatcher as Kucherov. The Preds have no one of that caliber.
ThunderRoad
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Have you seen the defensive depth in Tampa? Hedman can name his price and the Lightning would have no choice but to agree. Fortunately, he has always taken reasonable deals.
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Stamkos scored 106 points the season Kucherov missed half the season.
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And its not like Forsberg is chump change. He got 94 with ROR and Nyquist, neither of which were considered offensive forces.
Stamkos may not put up the same points he did with Kucherov but he still has solid guys to play with.
Not to mention our 1st PP is going to be Stamkos, Forsberg, ROR, Josi, and either Nyquist or Marchessaut. That ain't exactly shabby and possibly the best this franchise has had the ability to put together.
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Stamkos and Marchessault played together in Tampa from 2014-2016. I did not know this.
Good point.
Good point.
To be fair, Hedman always took less money and was more valuable to the team.
I don't like Stamkos's exit, but his value to the Lightning is being grossly exaggerated here.
I think Stamkos will settle down to a 60ish point guy. You might be able to get away with playing him in the bumper spot on the PP, if forsberg plays the wall. It's better if Stamkos doesn't have to handle the puck a lot.
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Stamkos played out his ELC and was an RFA for weeks before he got his deal. Hedman got his next deal after his ELC 7 months before it ended.
Their 2nd deals, Stamkos did the whole tour and took those big meetings in Toronto and with Leafs and all those Canadian CEOs and finally got his deal 2 days before being a UFA (he took less to stay in Tampa btw). Hedman a full year away from UFA he got his deal.
This time they barely negotiated with Stamkos and once again Hedman got his new deal nearly a year away from his current deal expiring.
I wont argue value to the team and all that but its odd the way they bow down to Hedman and disrespect Stamkos.
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Yeah Stamkos wasn't great here last year but he's still elite on the power play, it's heart breaking the way they went but yeah guentzel is the better player at this point. His numbers will probably dip a little without Kucherov on the power play feeding him and he's not good 5v5 anymore but he should still be around 70-80 points unless he gets hurt. It's an overpay by 3m for sure but he's not completely washed either like some people are making it out to be. We had the #1 pp in the league last year and Stamkos was a big reason for that.
Yeah looks like his even strength ice time will have to be a little protected. Good thing we have guys like O'Reilly and Forsberg that are good defensively. I do expect his even strength numbers and even his powerplay numbers to drop some, especially early. It's also the reason his pay dropped some. If we can get 55-65 points though, he makes us a much better team, especially on the powerplay.
We needed more goals at both even and moreso the powerplay. So we signed the winger with the 7th most even strength goals in Marchessault, to go along with the guy that scored the 5th most even strength goals in Forsberg and then signed the defenseman that is 2nd in even strength goals over the last 2 seasons. Then we signed the guy with 3rd most powerplay goals in Stamkos, who will now play with our top 5 powerplay defenseman. And while yest that's not what Stamkos had to play with last season. It's still pretty damn good. All and all I love what they did. They add players to ride out the peak years of Saros, Josi and Forsberg. And yes, it's likely going to be short lived, 3 years is likely. However, we have very good, very deep prospect pool, so in 3 years some of the young guys will come in and start to take over the reigns. Years 4 and 5 are likely going to see a big drop before these young guys completely start taking over. So we draft higher those two years and add higher end prospects to an already very young core.
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It's a completely academic discussion, but the Preds had 99 points last year. Don't you think those three additions(with no significant subtractions) would be worth at least 8 to 10 points?
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Yeah and teams never won a cup with a euro captain.. until they did.
And in any case Forsberg and Saros are 29 and Skjei is 30. So it's not a completely geriatric core
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How so?
Forsberg -48
Stamkos - 40
Marchessault - 42
We have three 40 goals scorers, a 80-95 point defenseman and a goalie that's averaged 4th in Vezina voting the last four seasons.
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Maybe but he's still one of the best on the powerplay which is exactly what we need.
Good thing our PP is dog shit. Oh and he scored 40 goals last year so we'll see.
