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Who said they were building around him? Right now he's just the guy that is playing well and they are using. In 3 months he may not even be here.
Who knows with Trotzspeak, but he did mutter something about bringing in different younger guys to see what they could do and if they could help moving forward.

On the other hand, absolutely. Anyone not a NMC could be the hero one day and waived the next. We've been going through those younger guys like a daycare goes through sanitizer wipes during cold and flu season.
 

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Exactly, that's how this all started. Brunette is so worried about playing Josi on the right and Lauzon on the top line that there was no room for the new guy on the right side, even with Fabbro and Carrier gone from the opening night roster.

Blankenburg is just another guy blocking a player that might have an actual future with the team. Regardless of his goal last night and how he's playing right this minute he has as much of a chance of sticking in the NHL as Grimaldi had.
 

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Exactly, that's how this all started. Brunette is so worried about playing Josi on the right and Lauzon on the top line that there was no room for the new guy on the right side, even with Fabbro and Carrier gone from the opening night roster.

Blankenburg is just another guy blocking a player that might have an actual future with the team. Regardless of his goal last night and how he's playing right this minute he has as much of a chance of sticking in the NHL as Grimaldi had.
Not to defend Bruno, but the new guy is 23 and has had maybe 1 practice with team. Sitting and watching a game or 2 until he can learn the system a bit ain't exactly a bad idea.
 
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Exactly, that's how this all started. Brunette is so worried about playing Josi on the right and Lauzon on the top line that there was no room for the new guy on the right side, even with Fabbro and Carrier gone from the opening night roster.

Blankenburg is just another guy blocking a player that might have an actual future with the team. Regardless of his goal last night and how he's playing right this minute he has as much of a chance of sticking in the NHL as Grimaldi had.
It's called plugging holes. Who knows what this team will look like in a month let alone a year from now. Let's not get our panties in a bunch just because some guy has played a few games and another guy who has done Jack squat with Montreal hasn't gotten to play a day or two after being traded.
 
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Exactly, that's how this all started. Brunette is so worried about playing Josi on the right and Lauzon on the top line that there was no room for the new guy on the right side, even with Fabbro and Carrier gone from the opening night roster.

Blankenburg is just another guy blocking a player that might have an actual future with the team. Regardless of his goal last night and how he's playing right this minute he has as much of a chance of sticking in the NHL as Grimaldi had.
You can be the new GM after Trotz gets fired.

A lot of people thought that Martin St Louis couldn't play in the NHL because he was too small, at 5'8" and 176 pounds. He only lasted 15 seasons, 1134 games and 1033 points. He also had another 90 points in 107 playoff games. If Blankenburg or whoever, can do 25% of ANY of those numbers, it is a win for Nashville. St Louis also won one Stanley Cup with Tampa Bay in 2004.
 
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Not to defend Bruno, but the new guy is 23 and has had maybe 1 practice with team. Sitting and watching a game or 2 until he can learn the system a bit ain't exactly a bad idea.
The "system"? Please explain.
It's called plugging holes. Who knows what this team will look like in a month let alone a year from now. Let's not get our panties in a bunch just because some guy has played a few games and another guy who has done Jack squat with Montreal hasn't gotten to play a day or two after being traded.
Panties in a bunch? Please be less extra.

It's not whether Blankenburg is in over "new guy", it's still about the overall utilization of the available
You can be the new GM after Trotz gets fired.

A lot of people thought that Martin St Louis couldn't play in the NHL because he was too small, at 5'8" and 176 pounds. He only lasted 15 seasons, 1134 games and 1033 points. He also had another 90 points in 107 playoff games. If Blankenburg or whoever, can do 25% of ANY of those numbers, it is a win for Nashville. St Louis also won one Stanley Cup with Tampa Bay in 2004.
So very glad MSL can be used as a comparison 20 years later for a diminutive Dman's viability in the modern NHL. At 26 Blankenburg is just now learning to survive in the NHL on a horrible team with horrible management, great for him.

Again, the point remains the same. Either find a way to play right handed defensemen on the right side or continue to screw up the depth of the team. Schenn is not the present or the future. Blankenburg is, what, passable, at present but not the future. And Josi on the right side is a mistake presently and will only be worse in the future. Try something different for the future is all I'm saying.

I hate the idea of tanking or losing on purpose. This season is lost as far as playoffs goes, play someone that might have a future and star figuring it out.
 
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Fun fact. Blankenburg and Girard were born the same day, May 12, 1998. Fabbro, born 5 weeks later, was the Preds 1st round pick in 2016, Girard was a Preds 2nd round pick that year, Blankenburg went undrafted.

Oddly, this current Preds braintrust has settled on the smallest and least experienced of the three to build their future RHD around.
Hmm. That adds to the stack of people I know with that birthday. Offhand I can count 5 besides Blankenburg and Girard, one being my older granddaughter. Why is mid August such a successful sexy time???
 

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Bruno's system is "positionless hockey" which is meant to allow players to fluidly move about the zone, disrupting more traditional formations and confusing the opponents. It's a "never let them know your next move" type of unpredictability.

A big problem with it is that we don't have any team speed, so opponents caught off guard can generally recover. And the bigger issue is probably that our players seem to be just as confused as the opponents. I just don't believe it's viable, as it completely upends a lifetime of training for these guys.

There are tweaks you can make to the usual systems, like you can get a different tire size or tread pattern, but you can't re-invent the wheel.
 

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Bruno's system is "positionless hockey" which is meant to allow players to fluidly move about the zone, disrupting more traditional formations and confusing the opponents. It's a "never let them know your next move" type of unpredictability.

A big problem with it is that we don't have any team speed, so opponents caught off guard can generally recover. And the bigger issue is probably that our players seem to be just as confused as the opponents. I just don't believe it's viable, as it completely upends a lifetime of training for these guys.

There are tweaks you can make to the usual systems, like you can get a different tire size or tread pattern, but you can't re-invent the wheel.
It's not just training, but it effectively assumes (incorrectly) that everyone has the same innate talents and skills. Every player can play all the positions on a split second's lack of notice. It's an idea based on a false core assumption.

Imagine, if you will, an extreme case. A case involving all 6 positions on the ice and having everyone play in goalie gear. Your "system" is to confuse the opposition as to which goalie is the real goalie. Not only would it be ridiculous to have Connor McDavid skating around in goalie gear, you may have him stuck in net ,trying to recover from a pulled groin, while Jack Campbell slowly leads the rush toward the neutral zone, trying to carry the puck on his goalie stick around a Victor Hedman.
 

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Bruno's system is "positionless hockey" which is meant to allow players to fluidly move about the zone, disrupting more traditional formations and confusing the opponents. It's a "never let them know your next move" type of unpredictability.

A big problem with it is that we don't have any team speed, so opponents caught off guard can generally recover. And the bigger issue is probably that our players seem to be just as confused as the opponents. I just don't believe it's viable, as it completely upends a lifetime of training for these guys.

There are tweaks you can make to the usual systems, like you can get a different tire size or tread pattern, but you can't re-invent the wheel.
Chaos isn't a system.
 

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Chaos is the transition and offensive zone systems.

Dzone is actually very standard, like what they're taught in mites. This works wonderfully until everyone flies the zone as soon as a teammate possesses the puck.

The forecheck is basically the same thing Hynes was using. A man on man coverage to eliminate passing options allowing the F1 and F2 to overwhelm the puck carrier and create turnovers.
 
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This is why ... if Trotz really believes in this has a future in hockey it needs to be Milwaukee where it's implemented first. Less programming to undo instead of expecting to undo 20 to 30 years of traditional systems from veterans who won cups under traditional systems. Trotz and Taylor hybridize Bruno's system here and Bruno goes to Milwaukee at the same salary/contract and Taylor gets a raise. Next year let Taylor test his legs and reassess after 25-26. But the part of me that wants Hager(sic) says keep on losing baby.
 

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I don't want Bruno in Milwaukee. I don't think he will be a good fit because I don't think he is a good enough coach. He will be very bad for the younger players!

Bruno's offense stinks. In soccer, it would be called the Dutch Twirl. You need 7 players that can shift between being forwards and midfielders. The Preds don't have the players to do that. They don't have enough team speed to rapidly switch. They can't even sort out their defense pairs!
 
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