Not good enough - no playoffs again!

[Micklebot]

??

I'm saying your idea is terrible, Dorian'esque.

 

[Senovision]

Oh

I'm saying your idea is terrible, Dorian'esque.

Oh...lets hear your ideas Lol. Im prepared to be underwhelmed.
You have something in mind?

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

?? Zib for Brass ?
Sanderson is overrated and we need a more physical presence who can get 30 points.
We would be losing 10 points a year...but making our team harder to play against.

he's played bad for like 10 games in his nhl career and is probably injured.

the 10 games before he was dominant.

 

[Senovision]

Sanderson would get us more than Chabot would in a trade

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Sanderson would get us more than Chabot would in a trade

that's because he is the much much better player on a better contract and younger.

Stutzle would get us more than Norris in a trade too.

 

[Micklebot]

Sanderson would get us more than Chabot would in a trade

Of course he would, because GMs realize he's a fantastic piece that doesn't become available, like ever.

Oh

Oh...lets hear your ideas Lol. Im prepared to be underwhelmed.
You have something in mind?

My idea is don't trade Sanderson.

 

[Senovision]

Of course he would, because GMs realize he's a fantastic piece that doesn't become available, like ever.

My idea is don't trade Sanderson.

Our d are too soft If the right trade package came up for Sandy it would be a move worth doing. If the right package came up.

 

[StoicSensFan]

Move Sanderson overrated....he has a 40-50 point ceiling (hes on pace for30- 40 points) gets out muscled and doesn't play a physical game.
He has 2 points in his last 12 games and 1 goal all season. If we trade Sanderson who has value especially to a team for a physical steady dman that can get 30 points do it.

Let's trade Yakemchuk too, guy can't put up points for shit

 

[Senovision]

He hasnt had any amazing offensive numbers 5-8 goals a season about 38 points for a soft defenseman that skates well.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Crazy talk

 

[bicboi64]

This would be about as good of a move as trading Zibanejad for Brassard...

Watch trading Sandy for someone old vet defender have us end up in the cup finals.

If that happens, who'll be the Brassard coming back?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Watch trading Sandy for someone old vet defender have us end up in the cup finals.

If that happens, who'll be the Brassard coming back?

Aaron Ekblad?

 

[Xspyrit]

Chabot so far this season... is pretty much back at an elite level (hasn't been since 2021-22), he's Top-10 in several advanced stats

I wouldn't read a lot into that, Sanderson has played about 140 minutes over 15 games with Hamonic. He seems snakebitten on offense right now but that minus can pretty well be attributed to that stretch. Their xGA/60 is 3.09, the only pairing on the team that's over 2.15.

Sanderson started really strong but has been struggling since Zub first got injured. It looked like he was taking the next step but hasn't and that's one of the 3 reasons we don't have a better record IMO (the other 2 are Ullmark and depth scoring, as Perron/Amadio/Gregor/Cousins have a whooping 11 pts in 59 games)

Sanderson-Hamonic 46.3% (140 mins)
Sanderson-Zub 48.1% (112 mins)
Sanderson-Jensen 58.8% (19 mins)
Sanderson-Chabot 62.5% (19 mins)

This team has no superstars. Just having a 90 point season doesn't pass the smell test for me if you are on the losing end of most games. If your plays are the deciding factor on our success or your play is consistently on par with the other teams elite then you get the nod from me. BRADY and Stu are borderline AllStars. Too many players in the league are point a game players now and they just don't stand out.

I don't find this very fair... Since 2022-23 (Stutzle was 20 y/o and Tkachuk 23 y/o), Stu is 21st in PPG among forwards (1.06) and Tkachuk is 31st (0.98). There's 32 teams and our 2 main forwards were Top-32, and Stutzle started that stretch at 20 y/o

Giroux (63rd) and Batherson (78th) are also in the Top-80. Norris was 131st (top-6 forward) despite his injuries. We're lacking a 6th guy as DeBrincat and Tarasenko are gone. None of Pinto or Greig has produced near Top-6 numbers.

I’d say its OK if we barely squeak in this year IF we go on a deep run the following year. Something like winning a couple of rounds & getting into the Conference final would be a decent Year 2 milestone. But if its just squeaking in multiple years in a row, to me that isn’t a huge achievement. That would be achieving mediocrity imho.

Considering it will have taken basically a FULL rebuild and 8 seasons to achieve that, no it wouldn't

 

[bicboi64]

Aaron Ekblad?

I just hope Staios doesn't throw in a 2nd because Florida already paid his signing bonus lol

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I just hope Staios doesn't throw in a 2nd because Florida already paid his signing bonus lol

I am confident those shenanigans went out the door with the last regime.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Move Sanderson overrated....he has a 40-50 point ceiling (hes on pace for30- 40 points) gets out muscled and doesn't play a physical game.
He has 2 points in his last 12 games and 1 goal all season. If we trade Sanderson who has value especially to a team for a physical steady dman that can get 30 points do it.

Pierre?

 

[LiseL]

Got a feeling Brady Tkachuk is playing his final 64 games for Ottawa if they don’t make the playoffs.

Don’t like what I’m hearing

You do realize he's one of the problems right? One of the worse forwards playing away from the puck and cheating for offense. Not a good look when you're the captain. He needs to be part of the solution, lead by example (like Alfie & EK used to do). He says all the right things but talk is cheap. If he doesn't learn how to play the right way, and do it consistently on the ice, then I don't care if he leaves.,

 

[LiseL]

Even those times you mentioned, we generally had an average to below average team..I think most years we allowed more goals than we scored...which is a bad team. They were lucky or pesky and went on a run at the right time.

We haven't actually had a strong team since like 07-08ish when we started to suck.

So like, a good 16 years since we've had a "strong team" that others would actually call a good team.



You need to have a good GM who can win a trade like that.

Last thing you want is a stone-like trade where we get like 2 prospects who don't pan out, some 3rd liner for cap dump, and a low first or something.

Has staios ever won a big trade in his gm career?

I know he's struggling right now, but wouldn't the Ullmark trade count as winning a big trade? Got rid of Korpi and I believe Ullmark will find his game. Also liked the Jensen trade. Saying SS would do a dumb-ass trade like Dorion did is a head scratcher for me. Nothing he's done so far even suggests that's a possibility.

 

[LiseL]

Kinda where I’m at. Last season I didn’t watch the ~20 games after the trade deadline, and I’m someone who misses like 2-3 games per season max. It’s a tad bit early for that for me but I’m getting close to tuning out again. It’s just not a fun way to spend ~10 hours a week.

I tape the games to my PVR so that I can start watching about 1 hr later to fast forward the commercials. When they play like shit, I FF until they score and make it a game again. For some games, I basically FF till the end.

 

[LiseL]

I was bullish on Ullmark heading in, but he has not looked good and the whole key to these guys finding their footing has been lost. I think it's on him too, the team has been mostly fine in his games imo. It's wading in to disaster territory though if they don't reel off a couple wins here quickly and while Forsberg has been better, I don't think he's good enough to take them anywhere right now either. Either Ullmark gets it together or this team is f***ed.

SS had no choice but to give it another go with this core and his options were limited by the lack of assets, but if this season ends like the last few, it's time to make major changes to the core. Re-tool, whatever you want to call it, but I feel like the core is properly supported this year and still can't carry the team consistently the way your best players need to in this league.

When I see Zub handing the puck to the opposition like he did early on last night, I can't help but feel like they're broken in some way. He's better than that. So many times when they're looking good, someone takes them out of it, whether it's the goaltender or a player.

Sandy hasn't been good either. He's been with Zub for a few games now, can't be laid at Hamonic's feet. How is it that as a rookie under DJ, he always played well in the D zone, and now is no longer as consistent. It's really sad and strange how the entire core either plays well or plays badly, except for Stu. He's been one of the more consistent players on this team.

I meant the team as in being part of this organization.

I don't think the skaters have been that bad defensively. Some times here and there, and at the wrong times sometimes but generally they've been good this year at keeping the scoring chances down.

Although I admit I haven't been following ullmark around everywhere for a decade, I don't know if I've seen him look to lack as much confidence as he has right now, at any point in his buffalo or Boston career.

Not saying the skaters broke him lol but it's funny that in a matter of weeks since being part of this organization, his confidence dwindled to the point he looks nervous and tentative in net by November.

I guess we're not known as the goalie graveyard for nothing.