North Bay Battalion 2022-23 Season Thread

[Uncle]

Mike McIvor's first OHL action.

He looked good! Hamilton did great job defending high scoring areas, couldn’t seem to generate quality chances! Must’ve gotten some of that flu haha

 

[SpezzaNoLookDropPass]

He looked good! Hamilton did great job defending high scoring areas, couldn’t seem to generate quality chances! Must’ve gotten some of that flu haha

Very impressive coming coming up from U18 GNML. Hopefully he can get some noj action before year end

 

[Samee987]

Sudbury - Kingston - Peterbourgh this week on the road. If Divencentiis is 100% then he should get all 3 starts.

 

[hardclimate]

Niagara might be in last place but they have speedy forwards that seemed to cause the Battalion d-men to run around and get out of position.

 

[SeniorJuniorFan]

Notes from Tuesday’s workout:

There were 3 goalies on the ice, 2 regulars and presume the emergency backup from last weekend. DDV was participating and taking shots, but does the continued presence of the E-BUG mean the #1 is not quite ready yet?

There was no sign of Kyle McDonald, Kyle Jackson was wearing a normal visor.

 

[Samee987]

Is DiVencentiis back tonight? Nothing on the website, nothing in the news rags...nothing anywhere!

 

[barclayplager]

DDV was BU 2nite....Robbie played well

 

[Poster man]

Nice weekend, 3 straight road wins and double D gets the shoutout against the Pete’s. Bring on the Greyhounds this Thursday for Teddy Bear toss.

 

[Uncle]

Would’ve liked to see nelson and Dom d attend world J camp but they’ll be there next year. A few high end competitors will be down a star player while we, hopefully, get one back shortly in macdonald and continue chugging along!

 

[OMG67]

I may be over estimating the potential of a back end together for a third season that includes ViVincentis, Nelson, Mathurin, Christopolous, Lukin, Kennedy, …the battalion may never replicate that. I would not be surprised if the only pick replacements come from trading Hislop pre-season and Fantili not showing.
That does not mean I underestimate the impact of graduations at forward Having traded Outwater & Sima, it will be four years before the Battalion can replace the age, size, and skill of Petrov, Ertel, Jackson, & MacDonald.

I don’t think they get the picks for Fantilli back until he ages out. So they will get them as the drafts come up. He is age eligible through the end of the 2025 Season.

 

[dirty12]

I don’t think they get the picks for Fantilli back until he ages out. So they will get them as the drafts come up. He is age eligible through the end of the 2025 Season.

Why? The 3, 4 picks were to be paid out if he

Saginaw Spirit

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I’ve been saying the battalion will have the 3rd this coming draft. They can exhaust early picks 2024-26 because there are 2 more picks coming in ‘24, and a lot of time to replinsh 2025-26 picks.

 

[OMG67]

Why? The 3, 4 picks were to be paid out if he

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I’ve been saying the battalion will have the 3rd this coming draft. They can exhaust early picks 2024-26 because there are 2 more picks coming in ‘24, and a lot of time to replinsh 2025-26 picks.

Yes but they aren’t available for trade. They become available once the seasons are completed.

So, the two 2nds aren‘t available until after the 2024 and 2025 seasons are completed. Same with the earlier picks. They get the 3rd and 4th back but not until the end of the 2023 season.

If they are being used as an actual draft pick to pick a player then it isn’t a big deal. But, if you are referring to access to picks to perform trades, they won’t really be available in the more traditional way.

 

[billoink]

Question, is the draft lottery an ongoing thing now or was it just in place during Covid thankyou.

 

[ohloutsider]

Question, is the draft lottery an ongoing thing now or was it just in place during Covid thankyou.

League said they were going to review it so no time line or answer to your question .

 

[dirty12]

Yes but they aren’t available for trade. They become available once the seasons are completed.

So, the two 2nds aren‘t available until after the 2024 and 2025 seasons are completed. Same with the earlier picks. They get the 3rd and 4th back but not until the end of the 2023 season.

If they are being used as an actual draft pick to pick a player then it isn’t a big deal. But, if you are referring to access to picks to perform trades, they won’t really be available in the more traditional way.

I think what Ive stated many times is the battalion are not short picks.
They have 3-4-multiple 5ths & 6ths for the upcoming draft and 2-4 banked for ‘24.
NB has more disposable 2024-26 picks than they can trade away (if the injured are expected back ready to play at some point)
The battalion have used 5-6 picks in the first four rounds for five straight years, they should need no more surplus than one significant buy this year and next.

 

[OMG67]

I think what Ive stated many times is the battalion are not short picks.
They have 3-4-multiple 5ths & 6ths for the upcoming draft and 2-4 banked for ‘24.
NB has more disposable 2024-26 picks than they can trade away (if the injured are expected back ready to play at some point)
The battalion have used 5-6 picks in the first four rounds for five straight years, they should need no more surplus than one significant buy this year and next.

Yea but they are short on the 2nds and 3rds until they get the Fantilli picks back and they can’t access the Fantilli picks for the purpose of trades. That’s fine if they only care about drafting and developing players but not good if they want the flexibility to use them in trades.

Having a boat load of 5ths and 6ths is cool if you are dropping them on long shot NCAA committed players but you aren’t typically hitting on 5ths and 6ths too often and you aren’t typically able to bulk them together in trade for a player that can move the needle.

So, when someone like me says North Bay is short on picks, it is from the perspective of picks that can be accessed for the purposes of utilizing them through the deadline to acquire players and keep up with the Jones’. It also means the picks they do have aren’t of the value needed to make impact acquisitions.

I recognize they have the Fantilli picks but they don’t “have” the Fantilli picks. No one does. They are somewhat held in escrow until a date on the calendar is past or the player reports.

I’m not suggesting you are wrong. All I am saying is North Bay is somewhat handcuffed not having access to picks now and the flexibility of being able to use them as trade pieces.

 

[Sleemans99]

Would’ve liked to see nelson and Dom d attend world J camp but they’ll be there next year. A few high end competitors will be down a star player while we, hopefully, get one back shortly in macdonald and continue chugging along!

It kind of shows what hockey canada thinks of the ohl. Only 5 picks invites plus maybe Wright and mactavish and clark

 

[hockeylegend11]

It kind of shows what hockey canada thinks of the ohl. Only 5 picks invites plus maybe Wright and mactavish and clark

And Wyatt Johnston from Dallas(Windsor)

 

[dirty12]

Yea but they are short on the 2nds and 3rds until they get the Fantilli picks back and they can’t access the Fantilli picks for the purpose of trades. That’s fine if they only care about drafting and developing players but not good if they want the flexibility to use them in trades.

Having a boat load of 5ths and 6ths is cool if you are dropping them on long shot NCAA committed players but you aren’t typically hitting on 5ths and 6ths too often and you aren’t typically able to bulk them together in trade for a player that can move the needle.

So, when someone like me says North Bay is short on picks, it is from the perspective of picks that can be accessed for the purposes of utilizing them through the deadline to acquire players and keep up with the Jones’. It also means the picks they do have aren’t of the value needed to make impact acquisitions.

I recognize they have the Fantilli picks but they don’t “have” the Fantilli picks. No one does. They are somewhat held in escrow until a date on the calendar is past or the player reports.

I’m not suggesting you are wrong. All I am saying is North Bay is somewhat handcuffed not having access to picks now and the flexibility of being able to use them as trade pieces.

Thing is, NB is ahead of the Jones’.
All they have to be concerned about is enough picks for the next two drafts and surplus 2024-26 picks just in case. NB has that.

Should the Petes pull off Wright & Roger and/or the ‘67s add three big pieces …nothing else really matters except injury luck and maybe chemistry and discipline

 

[OMG67]

Thing is, NB is ahead of the Jones’.
All they have to be concerned about is enough picks for the next two drafts and surplus 2024-26 picks just in case. NB has that.
Should the Petes pull off Wright & Roger…nothing else really matters except injury luck and maybe chemistry and discipline

Then North Bay is a non-factor at the deadline. Bloom was their acquisition. Nothing left to talk about in that regard.

I like North Bay a lot. I don’t know if it is enough to walk away this early confident. Essentially you are saying there really isn’t anything any other team can do because North Bay is locked and loaded with no need to make any moves no matter how the league shifts.

I don’t have an issue with that but at the same time, some would consider that arrogant.

 

[Monster66]

Next year is not necessarily a rebuilding year. The Battalion ‘04 class is still in tact. Nelson, Wakely, Mathurin, VanSteensel, Podoliouhk, DiVincentis, Lukin will likely be among the best groups of 19 yr olds.
There will be good OA options in Arnsby, Christopolous, Hislop, Tarasevich

Agreed. I am just not sure they will have enough firepower but everyone will be a year older and some of these guys will need to step up and be offensive drivers. It'll be interesting.. Also, is NB done making deals? I still think there's another couple of moves needed to help push this team over the top. One more D top four caliber, I'd like to see a legit top two centreman added and push Arnsby to the third line as the leagues best third line centreman and a capable backup to Dom D in nets. Thoughts??

 

[Monster66]

Then North Bay is a non-factor at the deadline. Bloom was their acquisition. Nothing left to talk about in that regard.

I like North Bay a lot. I don’t know if it is enough to walk away this early confident. Essentially you are saying there really isn’t anything any other team can do because North Bay is locked and loaded with no need to make any moves no matter how the league shifts.

I don’t have an issue with that but at the same time, some would consider that arrogant.

First and foremost, trades and deadline acquisitions don't always pan out. Sometime the price isn't worth the potential disruption that adding new players causes. It's adding the players with the right attitude and players that will not come in and upset the existing chemistry. A hot goalie at the right time can be a great equalizer. Imo, the 67s are well coached and have a nice group of players but with all due respect to them, I believe they are playing over there heads. It's a long season and it's not always best to be getting all your breaks early. I do believe these balance out over the course of the year. I'm an Ottawa guy and hope the 67s keep it going but I won't be shocked if they fall off somewhat in the second half...Let's see!!!

 

[dirty12]

Then North Bay is a non-factor at the deadline. Bloom was their acquisition. Nothing left to talk about in that regard.

I like North Bay a lot. I don’t know if it is enough to walk away this early confident. Essentially you are saying there really isn’t anything any other team can do because North Bay is locked and loaded with no need to make any moves no matter how the league shifts.

I don’t have an issue with that but at the same time, some would consider that arrogant.

C’mon! Amnesia?
Some time today I suggested to you that NB can get marginally better for a huge cost. Add a top 3-7 F to put Arnsby or Wakely on 4th line or Kyrou to have Christopolous on 3rd pairing?
I think it was you that said there is only so much you can do with the line up given

 

[dirty12]

Agreed. I am just not sure they will have enough firepower but everyone will be a year older and some of these guys will need to step up and be offensive drivers. It'll be interesting.. Also, is NB done making deals? I still think there's another couple of moves needed to help push this team over the top. One more D top four caliber, I'd like to see a legit top two centreman added and push Arnsby to the third line as the leagues best third line centreman and a capable backup to Dom D in nets. Thoughts??

Older BUG may be a good idea. Upgrading D probably means upgrading Winslow; I don’t know who that OA LD is. If Del Mastro becomes available, I bet Dennis is all over it. I think Arnsby & Wakely are 2-3 C; Wakely on pace for 40 goals!

 

[OMG67]

C’mon! Amnesia?
Some time today I suggested to you that NB can get marginally better for a huge cost. Add a top 3-7 F to put Arnsby or Wakely on 4th line or Kyrou to have Christopolous on 3rd pairing?
I think it was you that said there is only so much you can do with the line up given

Sorry. I am not saying YOU are arrogant. I meant that North Bay as an organization “would be” arrogant if they were to basically close up shop and not consider doing anything no matter what happens in the coming weeks (Barring a season ending injury and they need to replace that player).

I understand where YOU are coming from.

Sorry if I didn’t make that clear.