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forthewild

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That Buffalo jersey is ******* ugly and it will be a prime reason we sign Vanek next year. Its not because of our team, or cap space, Vanek will like the normal and beautiful jerseys we have over that ugly pile of *******.

That is one ugly jersey, i hope it starts a trend too.
 

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Jersey with gray subtracted.

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Much better. I'd feel a little better about it if the back and front had the same flow. I don't like that it looks like 2 different jerseys from 2 different angles.
 

thestonedkoala

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Ya think??? :laugh:

NOTHING in that quote tells me that he didn't like it in Minnesota.

It does. Given his behaviour here. Especially about the number 10 and such. Just seemed he was never quite comfortable here in Minnesota and didn't like it here. Who knows. This organization seems to rub a lot of players the wrong way. Hell, a lot of Minnesota teams do (I'm looking at the Twins)
 

MuckOG

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It does. Given his behaviour here. Especially about the number 10 and such. Just seemed he was never quite comfortable here in Minnesota and didn't like it here. Who knows. This organization seems to rub a lot of players the wrong way. Hell, a lot of Minnesota teams do (I'm looking at the Twins)

Examples?
 

thestonedkoala

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Examples?

Gaborik. Demitra. Parrish. They all come to mind as really never fitting in here or liking it here.

Havlat (but that was a mutual thing). Lats and Rolston both bolted even though it looked like they were hinting at staying. Seto is just another. Sheppard is another. Pouliot.
 

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Gaborik. Demitra. Parrish. They all come to mind as really never fitting in here or liking it here.

Havlat (but that was a mutual thing). Lats and Rolston both bolted even though it looked like they were hinting at staying. Seto is just another. Sheppard is another. Pouliot.

Lats left because he wanted to play closer to his daughter. Rolston left for more money, he got $5 million per season from the Devils...MUCH more than the Wild would've been willing to pay him. My bet is that if the Wild would've offered him that much $$ he would've re-signed. Parrish was bought out because he was slow as molassis and didn't fit with the system. Demitra wasn't offered a contract extension. Sheppard was traded. etc. etc. etc.

You act as if the Wild are unique in the fact that they elect to not re-sign players, trade players or buy players out. Name me a team in the NHL that DOESN'T do the same thing.

There are many reasons why players don't stick around forever, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the organization "rubs them the wrong way". Sometimes it's on the players, themselves. Or sometimes it just comes down to money.
 
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thestonedkoala

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Lats left because he wanted to play closer to his daughter.

Forgot about that one.

Rolston left for more money, he got $5 million per season from the Devils...MUCH more than the Wild would've been willing to pay him.

At the last minute. We had to trade Rolston to Tampa Bay because negotiations broke down and Rolston bolted. Money just is a convenient scapegoat in this case.

Parrish was bought out because he was slow as molassis and didn't fit with the system.

With Lemaire's system. The stuff I heard about Parrish and Lemaire, yeah I won't say. But it's Lemaire that played a big part of why some players didn't want to play in Minnesota.

Demitra wasn't offered a contract extension.

Demitra didn't seem to want to be here. He just ended up getting traded.

Sheppard was traded. etc. etc. etc.

And Sheppard had a fight with the organization.

This organization is known for sucking the offense out of players. And I don't fault players for avoiding the Wild. The franchise player has never scored more than 25 goals in his career, and is more known for his defensive side of things. Sounds like some place I want to play where the team is known more for defense than offense.

Parise will help (and so will Vanek) but this team will be a lunch pail type of team until Koivu retires. We're not going to be electric or dynamic. Just hard working and grindy. Nothing wrong with that but don't take it as an insult because that's what this team is. Even Parise isn't a very electric type of player. He's a elite talent because he's hard working and goes to the dirty spots.

That's why Zucker is so important for this organization. He's the only one really that can create offense and can be an electric talent. Granlund might be but he's not there yet.
 

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Koivu may be the captain, but he's not the franchise player. If I had to bet, I'd say this franchise will be defined for the next decade by the Suter/Brodin top pairing.
 

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Just reading between the lines, he didn't seem to like being traded to Minnesota.

Maybe it's PR but he never seemed comfortable in Minnesota. Especially since we picked up Mitchell.
Reading way too much into it. As others have already said, he was thrown for a loop when traded here right after signing the extension. He was yanked out of a place that he really loved. He had it all planned out and signed to stay there. Then he got stabbed in the back. It wasn't a Minnesota thing. It was the overall situation. Then he had a season that went bad based on an off-ice accident. And then the lockout. No wonder the guy never felt comfortable.
 

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Forgot about that one.



At the last minute. We had to trade Rolston to Tampa Bay because negotiations broke down and Rolston bolted. Money just is a convenient scapegoat in this case.



With Lemaire's system. The stuff I heard about Parrish and Lemaire, yeah I won't say. But it's Lemaire that played a big part of why some players didn't want to play in Minnesota.



Demitra didn't seem to want to be here. He just ended up getting traded.



And Sheppard had a fight with the organization.

This organization is known for sucking the offense out of players. And I don't fault players for avoiding the Wild. The franchise player has never scored more than 25 goals in his career, and is more known for his defensive side of things. Sounds like some place I want to play where the team is known more for defense than offense.

Parise will help (and so will Vanek) but this team will be a lunch pail type of team until Koivu retires. We're not going to be electric or dynamic. Just hard working and grindy. Nothing wrong with that but don't take it as an insult because that's what this team is. Even Parise isn't a very electric type of player. He's a elite talent because he's hard working and goes to the dirty spots.

That's why Zucker is so important for this organization. He's the only one really that can create offense and can be an electric talent. Granlund might be but he's not there yet.
For every player that may have been unhappy with Lemaire, there was a player who liked him. Every team has a player or two who aren't crazy about their coach at one point or another. It's not a shot at the team. It's just the way it is. You're not gonna have that many guys on a team who all prefer playing the style of hockey that their coach likes. Parrish knew what he was getting in to. He knew who our head coach was.

You mention that the Wild sucks the offense out of its players. My question is, how many of them have gone on to rack up goals on other teams. I can remember so many Nucks' fans predicting that Demo, Chouinard, and a few other former Wild players would start lighting it up after joining their high offense "open system" team. Guess what. Never happened. And where did Rolston's offense go? Gabby even struggled with the exception of one good year. I'd say one of the only guys who has done well is Dupuis, but take a look at his linemates. He got an upgrade.

Sheppard sucked, and he had no business fighting with this organization. Guy couldn't even drive an ATV.

Demo didn't want to be here, because he knew Gabby was on his way out. And he was often uncomfortable being forced to bounce around between different positions many games, because our GM didn't care to address our needs, which was magnified at the time due to injuries. Plus, Riser had a very good way of burning bridges with his players. How many agents did he get into fights with? Yeah, some of those agents were dingleberries, but Riser didn't have brains or respect when it came to negotiations. But that's in the past. He's gone. Different era.

Of course we've had a tighter system over the years. Not as tight as some people cry about though. This team has never had an equal balance when it comes to quality of forwards and defensemen. It's usually had to cover its tail for the crap up front. And then we've had boneheaded players on the backend who did nothing but throw "panic passes" up the boards. Just look at our forwards over the past decade. We went a good 3-5 years lacking decent centers alone! We had none. We needed some, but our GM thought it'd be better to fill that void with Chris Simon. He refused to bring in the proper tools even when he had a coach who practically called him out on it during a post-game interview. And look at the lack of prospects we've had. This team had to buckle down on their blueline, because it never had the engines. It had no business crossing center ice. In that regard, yeah...players had a tight leash. But again, when they moved on and the leash was taken off, how well did they do? Most failed. Perhaps we didn't suck the offense out of them. Maybe they just lost a step or didn't have it to begin with.
 
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thestonedkoala

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For every player that may have been unhappy with Lemaire, there was a player who liked him.

Usually those are grinders.

Parrish knew what he was getting in to. He knew who our head coach was.

Not exactly. Lemaire was stubborn and he had his doghouse, for whatever reason.

You mention that the Wild sucks the offense out of its players. My question is, how many of them have gone on to rack up goals on other teams.

Dupuis, Gaborik, Nystrom, Brunette, Laaksonen, White

I can remember so many Nucks' fans predicting that Demo, Chouinard, and a few other former Wild players would start lighting it up after joining their high offense "open system" team. Guess what. Never happened. And where did Rolston's offense go?

The opposite can be said the same of the players coming in. Kobasew comes to mind. Nystrom.

Gabby even struggled with the exception of one good year. I'd say one of the only guys who has done well is Dupuis, but take a look at his linemates. He got an upgrade.

Still, Dupuis showed some ability. It's not about just scoring goals but creating offense.

Sheppard sucked, and he had no business fighting with this organization. Guy couldn't even drive an ATV.

He sucked because we rushed him. He had no business in the NHL. I see a lot of parallels between Sheppard and Nino.


We went a good 3-5 years lacking decent centers alone! We had none.

And then we gave up looking for a top line center and gave it to Koivu and called it a day.
 

tomgilbertfan

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Dupuis, Gaborik, Nystrom, Brunette, Laaksonen, White

Brunette had a 27 and 24 goal year with the Avs, and 25, 22 goal seasons withe wild, man he really tore it up with the Avs! He had that one 83pt year with them but other than that his time with the wild was right in line with his career.

Nystrom had one good year with the stars.

Laaksonen had one good year with the Avs, with a grand total of one more point over his highest with the wild.

And again, Todd white had one good year with the thrashers then fell off the map.

Gaboriks 2 best seasons: NYR 86, 76 pts. MIN 83, 74

But yeah all those guys sure tore it up after getting away from us!
 

Avder

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Third jersey reveal thread from the Buffalo board.

It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion due to the long, drawn out reveal process and cheesy reveal. Great read. :laugh:

Seeing the stark contrast between the two methods, it really makes you appreciate the way Minnesota handled their jersey reveal.

Read the whole thread. It's hilarious.

I also like the term "Mustard Bukkake" as a nickname for that monstrosity.
 

MuckOG

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Usually those are grinders.

Koivu, Rolston and Brunette were grinders? I guess we define "grinders" differently. Each of these players played well under Lemaire and he respected each of them in return.


Not exactly. Lemaire was stubborn and he had his doghouse, for whatever reason.

Lemaire was a good coach. He was strict and demanding, but he also won a Stanley Cup.


Dupuis, Gaborik, Nystrom, Brunette, Laaksonen, White

As has been mentioned before. Look at Dupuis' line mates. Gaborik's numbers with the Rangers were virtually the same, as were Brunette's. The others? Meh, one year each and they disappeared.


Still, Dupuis showed some ability. It's not about just scoring goals but creating offense.

How would Dupuis have looked playing for the Panthers or Islanders?


He sucked because we rushed him. He had no business in the NHL. I see a lot of parallels between Sheppard and Nino.

We'll see....
 

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Nike... never again

i hope this is fake, stripe on 1 sleeve?
 

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Looks like team USA and Canada are following the same theme... That's a shame.

Team Russia's jerseys are the best yet, IMO.

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