OT: Non-Hockey Sports Thread XII - Heeeeeeressss JJ! (Percy Harvin Edition)

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Minnewildsota

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It was pointed out to me that Tucker Kraft was the Packer player complaining the Lions players were targeting knees, while he hit Pat Jones in the knees...

Just interesting information.
 

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you must not want to advance then!
You say that like it matters. If you want to go to the Super Bowl, you have to beat at least 2-3 really good teams. What difference does it make if they play the eagles or the rams? Both teams played close games with the packers already.

There’s nobody to fear in the NFC. Just need to get the fortunate bounce or call when it presents itself.
 

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Right now, Spotrac is showing and factoring in $5M for Darnold and $4.2M for Murphy Jr as "void years" on the 2025 cap. Does anybody know, if they re-sign one or both of those guys, do the "void years" count alongside whatever they sign for, or does the new contract take the place of that?
 

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Right now, Spotrac is showing and factoring in $5M for Darnold and $4.2M for Murphy Jr as "void years" on the 2025 cap. Does anybody know, if they re-sign one or both of those guys, do the "void years" count alongside whatever they sign for, or does the new contract take the place of that?
Vikings would have $5 mill left to allocate against the cap of the $10 mill they paid Darnold.

If darnold were to get say $40 mill per on a new deal in say straight base salary his cap hit for 2025 to 2028 would then be $41.25 mill. You just add the cap charge for his SB annual allocation to the new cap charge he would take on his new deal.

If he walks, you eat all $5 mill of it in 2025.
 
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Vikings would have $5 mill left to allocate against the cap of the $10 mill they paid Darnold.

If darnold were to get say $40 mill per on a new deal in say straight base salary his cap hit for 2025 to 2028 would then be $41.25 mill. You just add the cap charge for his SB annual allocation to the new cap charge he would take on his new deal.

If he walks, you eat all $5 mill of it in 2025.
So if they re-sign both to 4 year deals, they essentially gain ~$6.9M in cap space onto what they're currently showing? Before the new contracts are factored in, of course. That would be very helpful.
 

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So if they re-sign both to 4 year deals, they essentially gain ~$6.9M in cap space onto what they're currently showing? Before the new contracts are factored in, of course. That would be very helpful.
Way too early to be looking at the team cap situation. Can always restructure deals to change base salary into a bonus to free up space.
 

Minnewildsota

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Way too early to be looking at the team cap situation. Can always restructure deals to change base salary into a bonus to free up space.
Well Kwesi seems to be a Cap wizard. I say this seeing as how he's freed up or horrible cap situation in, what, a year or two?

Spielman was terrible as cap management, so maybe that just makes Kwesi look like a god. lol
 

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Way too early to be looking at the team cap situation. Can always restructure deals to change base salary into a bonus to free up space.
Yeah, doesn't seem like a huge deal to keep Darnold and not have to gut other areas, assuming he's willing to leave a little bit of money on the table to stay in a pretty great situation.

Though you definitely don't want to push things down the road and end up like New Orleans, with -$78M in cap space for next year.
 

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Jordan Love is not a line driver.
The only time the packers moved the ball effectively was when Love was allowed to pass the ball on 1st and 2nd down.
It was pointed out to me that Tucker Kraft was the Packer player complaining the Lions players were targeting knees, while he hit Pat Jones in the knees...

Just interesting information.
Should’ve been a penalty and if he was gonna do it to anyone (he shouldn’t), it should’ve been against Kerby Joseph.
 

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The only time the packers moved the ball effectively was when Love was allowed to pass the ball on 1st and 2nd down.

As a Packer fan, does Love's footwork when he's in the pocket concern you at all? IMO, he has a tendency to throw off the backfoot quick a bit.....a bit like Rodgers and Mahomes do, but they are able get away with it....I'm not sure Love will be able to do the same.
 

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Newcastle beat ManU today at their stadium for only the 2nd time in 40 tries. Hopefully this monky stays off their back for good. MU is nothing, now. NUFC should be looking to beat them any time they meet.
 
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