OT: Non-Hockey Sports Thread XII - Heeeeeeressss JJ! (Percy Harvin Edition)

[Digitalbooya]

Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it can't be dirty. Targeting knees when launching yourself into a tackle is dirty as it gets.
NHL fans freak out about a leg getting stuck out to contact a knee... imagine leaving your feet to full on go as a projectile into another player's knee. That's what Kirby Joseph does.

Nailed it. Stafford said the same thing in real time:

 

[TaLoN]

I don't remember a lot of safeties/cornerbacks tackling prime Gronk at the shoulders.

They didn't launch themselves as a projectile at his knees either. Most players don't do that.

 

[Digitalbooya]

The division is there for the taking for the vikings.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Watson is more explosive than Reed. Always has been.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Packers need the bears to win for any chance of winning the division. So there’s 0 chance

 

[Minnewildsota]

Caleb Williams is so bad.

 

[57special]

Caleb Williams is so bad.

His receivers have not been helping him out. A lot of drops.

Packers need the bears to win for any chance of winning the division. So there’s 0 chance

With all of the injuries the Lions have, the Packers might be the best team in the division, yet be in 3rd place.

 

[MuckOG]

His receivers have not been helping him out. A lot of drops.

That and he holds on to the ball way too long. Beyond that, they really need to get a coach in there who can properly groom Williams. He has alot of raw talent, but needs to right tutoring to properly develop as a QB.

 

[Minnewildsota]

That and he holds on to the ball way too long. Beyond that, they really need to get a coach in there who can properly groom Williams. He has alot of raw talent, but needs to right tutoring to properly develop as a QB.

I don't think he can read defenses either.

 

[MuckOG]

I don't think he can read defenses either.

It might not be that he can't, but that he hasn't really had to until now. NFL franchises and fans are way too quick to pronounce judgements on young quarterbacks. Some qbs just need more time to develop. Aikman said it last night, but it's true, he was 0-11 in his first NFL season. I remember there were some questions if he was a bust. Thank god for Aikman, the Cowboys didn't panic.

 

[Minnewildsota]

It might not be that he can't, but that he hasn't really had to until now. NFL franchises and fans are way too quick to pronounce judgements on young quarterbacks. Some qbs just need more time to develop. Aikman said it last night, but it's true, he was 0-11 in his first NFL season. I remember there were some questions if he was a bust. Thank god for Aikman, the Cowboys didn't panic.

I don't disagree. I just see the raw tools but not the head to be successful. Just personal take, obviously.

 

[StreetHawk]

That and he holds on to the ball way too long. Beyond that, they really need to get a coach in there who can properly groom Williams. He has alot of raw talent, but needs to right tutoring to properly develop as a QB.

HC/OC matter. Bears, Commanders, Patriots all had Defensive minded HC and all took a QB in the top 3. So, the QB coaching fell on the OC. Waldron, Kliff, and Van Pelt. Kliff and Daniels overall working well. Maye is getting better. Waldron was fired and Brown brought in. He's struggling now. Nix has an offensive minded HC in Payton, McCarthy has one in O'Connell. Penix, Morris more known for Defense but has coached on both sides of the ball. ATL OC is Zac Robinson a former QB and came out of the Rams coaching tree. See what he does with Penix who now is getting the start.

Raiders and Giants currently hold the top 2 picks in the draft. Neither Ward nor Sanders are considered elite QBs. If LV returns Pierce, they need way better than Getsy/Turner who served as OC. Giants, if the move off Dabboll, need to factor in who would work with the QB if they draft one.

 

[TaLoN]

The division is there for the taking for the vikings.

Not only that, the #1 seed... if the Vikes win out, they get the top seed.