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"Nobody is afraid of Bedard"....Bruce Boudreau

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AlwaysSunnyInTampa said:
Bedard just needs to physically grow. What's happening with him is what a lot of people feared of Gretzky. Small guy. Gets pushed around. Not as much of a factor as he COULD be. The difference is one guy was the smartest player in the history of the game and it didn't matter that he was like 150 lbs soaking wet as a teenager


Bedard just needs time
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Except Gretzky was/is legitimately 6'0, whereas Bedard is maybe 5'9 and not growing any taller at this point.
 
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Geoist said:
50 as a rookie?!?! Not even Gretzky or Crosby got that. Your expectations were completely unrealistic. No wonder you're disappointed.
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Gretzky scored 51 as an NHL rookie at age 18/19. He scored 46 in the WHA as a 17/18 y/o rookie...
 
WarriorofTime said:
Nope. Crosby got cut in 2006. McDavid’s first opportunity was right now lol.
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Thanks.

Yup, you’re correct about Crosby went to camp as an invitee and was a final cut. Although lots has been written post event about the error that was made in doing so. Probably just revisionist interpretation .

McDavid played in the 2016 World Cup of hockey on team NA. A shitty version of the World Cup, but at least it had all nations represented unlike this 4 Nations abomination. That’s not McDavid’s fault.
 
Yet another talking head gets in on the Bedard pile on.

Hilarious how Celibrini's bad defensive coverage cost the Sharks a game vs Vancouver but nobody cares.

Bedard is putting no roots down in Chicago and has nothing but negativity to show for it. Keep trashing Bedard. He'll request a trade soon enough
 
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CallMeShaft said:
He's closer to 5ft10 than he is to 5ft9.

I know this board loves critiquing this kid, but questioning if he's even 5ft9 is a new one.
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I don’t know how you came to be knowledgeable of this to say with certainty but ask anyone connected to major junior in Canada and they will attest smaller sized player published stats will typically be listed 1+ inch, 10 lbs heavier than actual. That’s reality.

I saw Connor play in Regina 3-4 times and also in the NHL now twice. Visually, he is a thick lower, small/stocky body type. He might just be 5-10, he might just be 5-9. I’m not sure it’s a big difference. He’s definitely not 5-11. He is well under average height for a forward even in todays NHL.
 
Luigi Lemieux said:
The difference i see there is MacKinnon was a physical beast and Hughes an elite skater. Bedard is small, slow, and weak. He's certainly talented but his physical attributes hold him back a bit. He's going to be an elite player but top 3 like MacKinnon? i have doubts.
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If he's so small and weak why did he outscore Mcdavid in junior and international play by a wide margin ? In a harder league , on worse teams
 
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brentashton said:
I don’t know how you came to be knowledgeable of this to say with certainty but ask anyone connected to major junior in Canada and they will attest smaller sized player published stats will typically be listed 1+ inch, 10 lbs heavier than actual. That’s reality.

I saw Connor play in Regina 3-4 times and also in the NHL now twice. Visually, he is a thick lower, small/stocky body type. He might just be 5-10, he might just be 5-9. I’m not sure it’s a big difference. He’s definitely not 5-11. He is well under average height for a forward even in todays NHL.
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They measured him at the combine. He was 5’9.75”. No reason for any speculation that he would be less than that unless you think he is shrinking in his late teens.
 
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elmaco said:
He needs to hit the gym, a lot.
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You can sure tell who the ppl are that know nothing about the player. The OP and all 22+ of his likers

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Yeah you can go back at watch his U20s where he was going against players often two years older. Strong kid who could hold his own for sure. But 19 year olds are a lot different than 28 year olds. Not too worried about his strength long term. He’ll get there but yeah will take a bit of time.
 
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Tkachuk Norris said:
He has like 20 points less than McDavid did at this point in his career. McDavid had Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Nuge.

Bedard had Taylor Hall’s corpse, Tyler Bertuzzi and Phillip Kurashev.
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Bedard is definitely going to be a superstar who probably averages 50 goals and 100+ points, anyone who doubts that based on his first two seasons is being irrational imo. But doubting he's going to be a true generational talent like mcdavid is fair, I don't think he'll ever be at that level.
 
Brookbank said:
If he's so small and weak why did he outscore Mcdavid in junior and international play by a wide margin ? In a harder league , on worse teams
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Is Bedard actually slow? I've seen multiple people make that claim and I've never noticed that when watching him. Any scouting report I've read that mentioned his skating has said he was atleast a good skater.

Chicago fans if Bedard ended up being someone who averaged around 50 goals and 100-110 points in his prime would you be happy? I would be if I was a Chicago fan. Only reason not to be would be if you had your heart set on him being the next mcdavid.
 
rielledup said:
Is Bedard actually slow? I've seen multiple people make that claim and I've never noticed that when watching him. Any scouting report I've read that mentioned his skating has said he was atleast a good skater.

Chicago fans if Bedard ended up being someone who averaged around 50 goals and 100-110 points in his prime would you be happy? I would be if I was a Chicago fan. Only reason not to be would be if you had your heart set on him being the next mcdavid.
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He doesn't have burner speed but he's a good skater.
 
Twenny Cent, Patrick Kane, is 5'10. A generous 5'10 no taller than Bedard. Built similarly. Not especially fast but with the league's best shot or close to it. I don't see why expectations for Bedard shouldn't at least be Kane level.
 
nturn06 said:
MacKinnon was not special but was +13 in his first two seasons. Jack Hughes was -29, despite playing on a terrible team.

Bedard is a conbined -68, and he still has more than 1/3 season to fail even more.

I don't think there was any "generational" player coming to the league in recent years, put up nice numbers, and yet finish -44 in a single season.
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MacKinnon went to a team that already had Paul Stastny, Ryan OReilly, Matt Duchene, Landeskog, Varlamov at his peak and EJ. Compare that to Athanasiou, Reichel, Hall for 3 games, Jones, it really is not comparable situations at all

nturn06 said:
MacKinnon was also on a team who finished dead last with 48 points, 21 points behind the next team, in his first few seasons, he was only -14. That team was a disaster.
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Avs had no reason to be that bad though
 
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