Player Discussion: Noah Dobson

[Mr Misunderstood]

the isles don't seem to be pressuring the point giving him all day to walk the blue line.

put pressure on him and your leaving 2 guys like Aho and Necas open for him to pass to

They let him freely bomb from the point in Gm1 and have put more pressure on him since. JGP has been floating higher and higher in the zone attempting to take him away, which acutally opened up the passing lane backdoor to Noesen on the offside goal the other night.

Obviously a still frame shot doesn't do it justice, but Pageau was leaning toward Burns this whole sequence.

Not to derail the thread, but Dobber should be locked in on how Burns operates any time Carolina gets a powerplay.

 

[wingnutks]

They let him freely bomb from the point in Gm1 and have put more pressure on him since. JGP has been floating higher and higher in the zone attempting to take him away, which acutally opened up the passing lane backdoor to Noesen on the offside goal the other night.

Obviously a still frame shot doesn't do it justice, but Pageau was leaning toward Burns this whole sequence.

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Not to derail the thread, but Dobber should be locked in on how Burns operates any time Carolina gets a powerplay.

That is a beautiful example of Mayfield being out of position and covering no one.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

That is a beautiful example of Mayfield being out of position and covering no one.

I mean, on the PK you technically cover space, but your point is still valid.

PUT YOUR STICK ON THE ICE ON THE PK DAMMIT

 

[PK Cronin]

the isles don't seem to be pressuring the point giving him all day to walk the blue line.

put pressure on him and your leaving 2 guys like Aho and Necas open for him to pass to

He's so big that he's able to protect the puck and make the pass pretty easily. Being able to protect the puck and get out of trouble is what makes the good PP QBs stand out from the rest. Dobson can shoot and pass just fine, but when he's pressured he doesn't get away well enough for anyone to respect his ability and just back off.

That is a beautiful example of Mayfield being out of position and covering no one.

Noesen snuck behind the net and Mayfield never bothered to locate him. He doesn't need to be on top of him but if he took one stride right he's blocking that lane completely. A complete blunder.

Carolina has done that a few times this series and gives the Islanders defense problems.

 

[doublechili]

Noesen snuck behind the net and Mayfield never bothered to locate him. He doesn't need to be on top of him but if he took one stride right he's blocking that lane completely. A complete blunder.

Carolina has done that a few times this series and gives the Islanders defense problems.

"Puck-watching".

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Noesen snuck behind the net and Mayfield never bothered to locate him. He doesn't need to be on top of him but if he took one stride right he's blocking that lane completely. A complete blunder.

Carolina has done that a few times this series and gives the Islanders defense problems.

Moving spots on the PP, what a concept!

 

[CupHolders]

That is a beautiful example of Mayfield being out of position and covering no one.

In addition to that, Sorokin is left trying to look around the screen Mayfield just made of himself.

 

[MarsTBOW]

They let him freely bomb from the point in Gm1 and have put more pressure on him since. JGP has been floating higher and higher in the zone attempting to take him away, which acutally opened up the passing lane backdoor to Noesen on the offside goal the other night.

Obviously a still frame shot doesn't do it justice, but Pageau was leaning toward Burns this whole sequence.

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Not to derail the thread, but Dobber should be locked in on how Burns operates any time Carolina gets a powerplay.

Getting Burns on their Team has helped them immeasurably.....

 

[saintunspecified]

Yeah, I think you all illustrated how Burns makes NYI's job on the PK hard. If you pressure him, he is able to protect the puck well enough to start an open passing play. If you don't, he's going to get a shot through traffic.

I prefer to let him shoot. IMO NYI gotten here because of the goalie, I say give him a chance to be the best PK'er as opposed to allowing seam passes to 1-timers or tip-ins no goalie can stop.

 

[13th Floor]

He's so big that he's able to protect the puck and make the pass pretty easily. Being able to protect the puck and get out of trouble is what makes the good PP QBs stand out from the rest. Dobson can shoot and pass just fine, but when he's pressured he doesn't get away well enough for anyone to respect his ability and just back off.



Noesen snuck behind the net and Mayfield never bothered to locate him. He doesn't need to be on top of him but if he took one stride right he's blocking that lane completely. A complete blunder.

Carolina has done that a few times this series and gives the Islanders defense problems.

We also just don't have the skill around the lineup to make quick passes to create time and space on the PP. And we always struggle against the PKs that don't sit in a box but instead pressure the puck constantly, which the Canes do well.

When you look around the league, the good PPs are making 2 quick passes in the face of that pressure and quickly create a 4 on 3 and a good scoring chance. Dobson can't do it as a PP, and nobody else out there can do it either.

I've always thought of Barzal as not a PP player. He's a north-south, on-the-rush player. And I've always thought that teams with players like him tend to struggle on the PP because the coaches are never creative enough to separate good offensive players from good PP players (to be fair, it's not like we have a lot of either). They take the players with the most points and put them on the top PP unit, regardless of their skillset. Ironically, Barzal is the only one who can create a tiny bit of space because of his edge work in tight spaces. But, he is not a quick decision maker when the PP runs through him, and he has no shot threat from the half wall.

We need a one-timer threat and a much better PP qb.

 

[Lights911]

DeAngelo and Gostisbehere are two solid PP QBs who should be available this offseason

 

[SRBisles]

DeAngelo and Gostisbehere are two solid PP QBs who should be available this offseason

The meltdown if ADA was brought in would be nuclear, but no doubt he’d be our best PPQB since Streit.

 

[doublechili]

The meltdown if ADA was brought in would be nuclear, but no doubt he’d be our best PPQB since Streit.

That's okay, we'll hire Q as the new coach and the two uproars will cancel each other out.

 

[mm11]

The meltdown if ADA was brought in would be nuclear, but no doubt he’d be our best PPQB since Streit.

Have no problem with ADA coming in to run the PP and play 3rd unit D. Heck, he may even elevate his game vrs the rangers, Philly, Carolina to name a few in our division

 

[TJHKY]

Noah Dobson supports home town.

 

[TJHKY]

Dobson Paying it Forward | New York Islanders

Noah Dobson is working on his own game while encouraging younger defensemen in the system

www.nhl.com

 

[TJHKY]

Noah Dobson’s offseason changes turned him into reliable Islanders force

It would have been easy for Noah Dobson to look at his point total last season and say everything was all fine, no need for any changes.

nypost.com

 

[SRBisles]

Currently 6th in the league with 25:10 ATOI. 22 points in 24 games. Blossoming into a true #1.

 

[Osakahaus]

His growth from 2021 to 2023 is absolutely amazing. He's really getting closer and closer to being like Alex Pietrangelo than Seth Jones (which was his draft day comparison)

 

[PWJunior]

His growth from 2021 to 2023 is absolutely amazing. He's really getting closer and closer to being like Alex Pietrangelo than Seth Jones (which was his draft day comparison)

I was thinking of who Dobson reminds me of and I think of a combination of Adrian Aucoin and Vladimir Malakhov from past Isles.

Aucoin was efficient and logged big minutes almost effortlessly. Was a good skater, had a good shot, and was good for 35-40 points. He was rock solid and a really good match with Kenny Jonsson in his Isles days.

Malakhov was talented in the same smooth way Dobson is. He was like 6'4, skated smoothly, had clear skill, and you could just tell he had beastly upside. Too bad he was a dumbass off the ice, I did love his pairing with Kasparaitis.

Dobson is playing 25+ minutes in all situations and is the PPQB putting up almost PPG numbers all before turning 24. He should hit full Super Saiyan mode when he adds another 10 pounds. You can build a defense around a player like that, we hit the jackpot with a #12 overall pick. The gravy being the Rags took Krapstov instead.

 

[MJF]

I was thinking of who Dobson reminds me of and I think of a combination of Adrian Aucoin and Vladimir Malakhov from past Isles.

Aucoin was efficient and logged big minutes almost effortlessly. Was a good skater, had a good shot, and was good for 35-40 points. He was rock solid and a really good match with Kenny Jonsson in his Isles days.

Malakhov was talented in the same smooth way Dobson is. He was like 6'4, skated smoothly, had clear skill, and you could just tell he had beastly upside. Too bad he was a dumbass off the ice, I did love his pairing with Kasparaitis.

Dobson is playing 25+ minutes in all situations and is the PPQB putting up almost PPG numbers all before turning 24. He should hit full Super Saiyan mode when he adds another 10 pounds. You can build a defense around a player like that, we hit the jackpot with a #12 overall pick. The gravy being the Rags took Krapstov instead.

I always though Vladdy was big enough to be a banger for us. Too bad he was a tamed tiger...until somebody reached his high breaking point. Then they were going to get absolutely ragdolled. But yeah he was smooth on his skates and with the puck when he wasn't sleepwalking through games.

 

[Osakahaus]

I was thinking of who Dobson reminds me of and I think of a combination of Adrian Aucoin and Vladimir Malakhov from past Isles.

Aucoin was efficient and logged big minutes almost effortlessly. Was a good skater, had a good shot, and was good for 35-40 points. He was rock solid and a really good match with Kenny Jonsson in his Isles days.

Malakhov was talented in the same smooth way Dobson is. He was like 6'4, skated smoothly, had clear skill, and you could just tell he had beastly upside. Too bad he was a dumbass off the ice, I did love his pairing with Kasparaitis.

Dobson is playing 25+ minutes in all situations and is the PPQB putting up almost PPG numbers all before turning 24. He should hit full Super Saiyan mode when he adds another 10 pounds. You can build a defense around a player like that, we hit the jackpot with a #12 overall pick. The gravy being the Rags took Krapstov instead.

For someone young like me, what was Malakhov able to do? I need to watch old tape of him one day.

 

[PWJunior]

For someone young like me, what was Malakhov able to do? I need to watch old tape of him one day.

Malakhov was ultra talented. Big LHD with silky smooth skating and skill, often paired with Kasparaitis to form the top pair back in the early 90's. Won a Cup with NJ Devils later in his career. Dude was a disappointment, unrealized potential. When he got pissed, he could wreck people too.

 

[doublechili]

Malakhov was ultra talented. Big LHD with silky smooth skating and skill, often paired with Kasparaitis to form the top pair back in the early 90's. Won a Cup with NJ Devils later in his career. Dude was a disappointment, unrealized potential. When he got pissed, he could wreck people too.

Good description. For younger fans that never saw him, think of the most talented player you can think of who didn't realize his potential, and they had nothing on Malakhov. The guy had absolutely everything. He was good, but he should have been great.

 

[SI90]

Kids a stud