It was the only decision is my point. That does not discount at all that he is in very good hands with Trotz as his coach and Greene as his partner.They valued keeping him around with NHL team and getting some starts here or there over the roster spot. Maybe it's not genius, but it was certainly a wise and appropriate decision.
I'll give it a golf clap.
The alternative approach is doing the Nino and forcing the guy into the lineup w/o being prepared or ready. So, there's a happy medium that while he may have had to be on the NHL lineup, he was in the actual lineup and on the ice at strategic times. Just doing their jobs, sure. But, how they do their jobs has an impact. Snow was just doing his job too.
I don't disagree with any of that, but nothing extraordinary has been done here. Competent, yes. Boilerplate, yes. Exceptional, no.
I agree, I think its just more of what a professional and experienced winning formula is doing vs. what has been done on LI for decades. Even moreso, its also the Dubas vs. Lou thing too, on completely different playing styles, Tavares, and actual results to date when comparing those teams.
They are both HOFers, no question, and they have both done good things in the short run for the Isles. Longer term, specifically as it relates to Lou, the jury is still way out. And so when I see the kind of gushing praise we've seen related to the handling of Dobson, which I think most of us would agree was the only path, I just wish people would save that kind of chatter for what will hopefully be Lou's next Niedermeyer type move and not something as unremarkable as Dobson being where he is.
People called it “nice to see” and an example of a “smart decision.” Trying to spin that into calling them "genius," "gods" or "the greatest gm/coach tandem in history," or even "extraordinary"/"gushing praise," as you are claiming has been said is more than a bit silly, and pretty clearly a straw man. No one in here is claiming any of that based on Dobson playing a partial season in the NHL last year.
Nicely selective. If you want to deny the general point I was trying to make then do so, but the fact remains that for many posters here, the mere ordinary is often cause for over the top praise. One thing is clear, it's no strawman.
Ok, if I was being too selective by only going back a few pages, then please show me one post where someone makes Lou and Trotz out to be gods, geniuses or the best gm/coach tandem of all time for not playing Dobson in the AHL last season. I haven't seen one, but maybe I missed it.
I'm pretty confident you're missing the point and looking for a scrap. But if you want to spend you're night looking at old posts, go back and read mine and see if you can figure out that I was not referring to the Dobson situation alone. But then, you already knew that. Have a nice night.
Except, you did claim it has happened specifically in regards to the Dobson situation, and that was what I called a straw man.
More selective editing. The entire quote was, "Nothing special has been done here as it relates to Dobson".
Nothing selective about it, as I provided the whole post and the whole post is about the handling of Dobson, not just that one part. But anyway, you can keep backpedaling and pretending that post wasn't about the handling of Dobson, but I'm gonna call it on this one since you can't be intellectually honest about this.
Well, if you read the whole the post then you know that I have been 100% intellectually honest and I haven't backpedaled one bit. Lou has done nothing special in this instance and yet was praised for doing so. This happens all the time. I pointed it out. Again. Dobson was the example. That's all. Anyone who can read, and is intellectually honest and not bringing a personal bias to it would acknowledge that. But there is strong personal bias, which is the entire reason for this conversation. Let's see if you have the decency to own up to that.
Mostly just wanted to confirm my theory on him, and he went above and beyond to prove that it was correct.
I think we are still amazed at the change from the Snow era, and maybe some think LL gets too much credit. Trotz is making lemonade many nights, and the feel of the team is on the rise. Dobson's development with the big team is paying dividends. Snow would have done something stupid.
Well articulated PW. I see a bit of Seth Jones in Noah. When he gains more confidence I can see him jumping into the attack as the 4th man, where Barzal will hit him with a trailing pass. I don't know if you notice this, but I see Barzal and Noah looking for each other. They are elite minds that only elite players see things on the ice. Mostly holes in the defence to create passing lanes. This is something to really look fwd to as an Islander fan. The chemistry these 2 will develop. Dobson already looks like the best QB on the PP the Isles have had since Trotz became the coach. It's trending well, it will be interesting to see how he looks after game 10, 20, 40. I predict he may be pushing the conversation as Isles Best D this year. It reminds me of his draft year, he came out of nowhere to be in the conversation as a top 5 pick. I can see this happening again. As Trotz's trust in him grows.
I also want a league wide search , with the most qualified candidates meeting with ownership for the best fit. It's not like Chris L is some successful, hot shot front office executive,who other teams are trying to poach,so the isles have to dangle the promise of the GM job to keep him in the organization.
