Confirmed Signing with Link: [NJD] Devils re-sign Kyle Palmieri (5 years, $4.65M AAV)

[Lou is God]

How often do we see career 3rd liners have a good season and then get over paid? It happens every year.

Mason Raymond
Foligno
Komarov last year scored 20 goals and is a career 4th liner.

You can point to whatever stat to justify it, but the same arguments are made every time. Sometimes guys over achieve.

He's 25 freaking years old, he is not a career nothing yet, jesus christ get a clue dude

 

[Lou is God]

Why are we talking about career 3rd liners in a thread about a signing if a top 6 winger?

He's obviously clueless, a 25 year old 30-goal scorer is a career 3rd liner - dumbest thing I have heard this week.

 

[Mad Brills*]

he did have a huge sh% spike, but still should be a 55 point player at least.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

How often do we see career 3rd liners have a good season and then get over paid? It happens every year.

Mason Raymond
Foligno
Komarov last year scored 20 goals and is a career 4th liner.

You can point to whatever stat to justify it, but the same arguments are made every time. Sometimes guys over achieve.

This is the player Palmieri always projected to be, and his performance reflects what he did in Anaheim with less opportunity.

 

[moon*]

Except, you know, the 30 goals.

Also what's this nonsense about not having a good shot? Watch the video and see how many shots he bombs from outside the circles, snipes off the rush, and threads through from impossible angles.

Is that video supposed to impress me?

Again sorry I don't agree that he is super awesome.

Devils fans seem happy he is back so great for them. Perhaps you should focus on being happy that he is back on your team than worrying that not everyone thinks a guy with 1 30 goal season is awesome. And yes to everyone who keeps pointing out that he scored 30 goals in A season I realize that, great for him.

 

[Unspecified]

Became a closet Devils fan during my East coast hockey trip this year. This is a great deal for what he brings.

 

[hockeyr5]

How often do we see career 3rd liners have a good season and then get over paid? It happens every year.

Mason Raymond
Foligno
Komarov last year scored 20 goals and is a career 4th liner.

You can point to whatever stat to justify it, but the same arguments are made every time. Sometimes guys over achieve.

Mason Raymond had a 25 goal year playing on a very good Canucks team. He was FIFTH on his team in goals that year. Palmieri led the Devils in goals this year. That is a big distinction in my mind.

Nick Foligno I do have to kind of give you but that is more of an extreme. He was a near PPG pace in 14/15, I don't think anyone really expected him to continue that. No one thinks Palmieri will PPG but I think he has solidified himself as top 6 and scoring 20-30 goals seem more feasible than maintaining PPG.

Komarov I don't really see as a comparable. He was a 20 goal scorer this year so it is too soon to tell if he will keep that up. But he is also four years older, came from the KHL, and played on a weak Leafs team this year. The Devils were competitive most of the season before trailing off at the end with Palmieri being the leading scorer.

I don't expect Palmieri to pot 30 every year but I have a hard time seeing him finishing with less than 20 any year of the deal (barring injury). I'd expect that number to be closer to 25 and wouldn't be surprised to see one year where he hits 30 again.

 

[BadFella]

The Devils have been making some real solid moves.
A silent wildcard to make the playoffs.

We don't do anything silently, much to the owners of the team's chagrin.

 

[Lou is God]

Is that video supposed to impress me?

Again sorry I don't agree that he is super awesome.

Devils fans seem happy he is back so great for them. Perhaps you should focus on being happy that he is back on your team than worrying that not everyone thinks a guy with 1 30 goal season is awesome. And yes to everyone who keeps pointing out that he scored 30 goals in A season I realize that, great for him.

It proves you wrong and shows you have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Is that video supposed to impress me?

Again sorry I don't agree that he is super awesome.

Devils fans seem happy he is back so great for them. Perhaps you should focus on being happy that he is back on your team than worrying that not everyone thinks a guy with 1 30 goal season is awesome. And yes to everyone who keeps pointing out that he scored 30 goals in A season I realize that, great for him.

what contract should Palmieri have gotten?

 

[NjDevsRR]

Only one empty net goal out of those 30.

And to that Calgary fan...that video was meant to show you he has a heavy and good shot since you said he has a bad shot which is asinine.

 

[BadFella]

We don't crucify our good players here in NJ.

To the contrary, we worship them.

We chanted Parise's Better when Crosby and the Pens came to town, for example.

 

[moon*]

what contract should Palmieri have gotten?

I don't like guys with his kind of numbers getting more than 3 million and more than 3 years.

It isn't just him that I am against there are a lot of contracts that have been handed out lately that are bad in my view. I find that many times it are these 4-6 million deals for guys that are secondary players (i.e. not stars) that can end up being real drains on the salary cap. I think they are the riskiest deals handed out because they often rely on guys maintaining a peak or close to their peak performance which often doesn't happen with guys in this bracket.

If he maintains a 30 goal pace then it is a very good deal, I have questions about whether he can or not.

 

[Yog S'loth]

Oh good, meet the new David Clarkson.

I'm sure Palmieri will score 30 goals every single year of that contract, right?

 

[NjDevsRR]

I don't like guys with his kind of numbers getting more than 3 million and more than 3 years.

It isn't just him that I am against there are a lot of contracts that have been handed out lately that are bad in my view. I find that many times it are these 4-6 million deals for guys that are secondary players (i.e. not stars) that can end up being real drains on the salary cap. I think they are the riskiest deals handed out because they often rely on guys maintaining a peak or close to their peak performance which often doesn't happen with guys in this bracket.

If he maintains a 30 goal pace then it is a very good deal, I have questions about whether he can or not.

Palmieris contract is only 6% of the cap...

Cmon man. And you are acting like his numbers are bad. He is consistently putting up the same metrics.

 

[Cheddabombs]

I don't like guys with his kind of numbers getting more than 3 million and more than 3 years.

It isn't just him that I am against there are a lot of contracts that have been handed out lately that are bad in my view. I find that many times it are these 4-6 million deals for guys that are secondary players (i.e. not stars) that can end up being real drains on the salary cap. I think they are the riskiest deals handed out because they often rely on guys maintaining a peak or close to their peak performance which often doesn't happen with guys in this bracket.

If he maintains a 30 goal pace then it is a very good deal, I have questions about whether he can or not.

3x3 for a player like Palmieri would make me question if Shero drugged him and his agent during the process, it'd be lunacy. Also, the Devils still have $22M in cap space, $13M if you want to tack on the Clowe and Savard contracts. They don't have many players on long-term deals and the ones that are have relatively cheap contracts that won't hamper the team in any way moving forward. Our cap situation is so good right now that even if you believe this is an overpayment, which is crazy but whatever you seem hardheaded to believe so, it doesnt affect the team and what moves Shero can make at all.

 

[Cheddabombs]

Oh good, meet the new David Clarkson.

I'm sure Palmieri will score 30 goals every single year of that contract, right?

This may be the biggest insult I've seen thrown at Palmieri today... David Clarkson....

 

[NjDevsRR]

Oh good, meet the new David Clarkson.

I'm sure Palmieri will score 30 goals every single year of that contract, right?

Guess you never watched him play

 

[BadFella]

Oh good, meet the new David Clarkson.

I'm sure Palmieri will score 30 goals every single year of that contract, right?

Clarktard was a goon who discovered that he had an uncanny ability to score wraparound goals. He got paid first line money to go home to Toronto and then his career effectively ended, but he got paid.

Palms is already home, as a Jersey kid, and took sub-5m a year to stay here until he's 30. Not really comparable.

 

[Edmonton East]

I don't like guys with his kind of numbers getting more than 3 million and more than 3 years.

It isn't just him that I am against there are a lot of contracts that have been handed out lately that are bad in my view. I find that many times it are these 4-6 million deals for guys that are secondary players (i.e. not stars) that can end up being real drains on the salary cap. I think they are the riskiest deals handed out because they often rely on guys maintaining a peak or close to their peak performance which often doesn't happen with guys in this bracket.

If he maintains a 30 goal pace then it is a very good deal, I have questions about whether he can or not.

HFboards: Where 30 goal scorers entering their prime are only worth 3 years @ 3 million per.

If he had reached 30 goals multiple times already, he would have gotten 6+. Do you just have a made up number in your head of what each player should get that doesn't factor in, say, the cap or actual contracts being handed out to players of the past 3 years? Interesting world you live in.

 

[moon*]

Palmieris contract is only 6% of the cap...

Cmon man. And you are acting like his numbers are bad. He is consistently putting up the same metrics.

The same metrics?

How many points in the standings to the Devils get based on metrics?

Because he certainly isn't putting up the same point totals.

 

[hockeyr5]

Oh good, meet the new David Clarkson.

I'm sure Palmieri will score 30 goals every single year of that contract, right?

He will score at least 20 every year, probably closer to 25. Well worth a 4.65M cap hit.

 

[OmNomNom]

I don't like guys with his kind of numbers getting more than 3 million and more than 3 years.

It isn't just him that I am against there are a lot of contracts that have been handed out lately that are bad in my view. I find that many times it are these 4-6 million deals for guys that are secondary players (i.e. not stars) that can end up being real drains on the salary cap. I think they are the riskiest deals handed out because they often rely on guys maintaining a peak or close to their peak performance which often doesn't happen with guys in this bracket.

If he maintains a 30 goal pace then it is a very good deal, I have questions about whether he can or not.

this is a disease spreading rampant throughout the league, i agree. even so, compared to others around, it seems like a not bad deal

 

[NjDevsRR]

The same metrics?

How many points in the standings to the Devils get based on metrics?

Because he certainly isn't putting up the same point totals.

You are nuts. Plain and simple. Look at his pts/60 throughout his career.

 

[moon*]

HFboards: Where 30 goal scorers entering their prime are only worth 3 years @ 3 million per.

If he had reached 30 goals multiple times already, he would have gotten 6+. Do you just have a made up number in your head of what each player should get that doesn't factor in, say, the cap or actual contracts being handed out to players of the past 3 years? Interesting world you live in.

No number in my head but I certainly have a concern about a guy with a previous high of 14 goals jumping up to 30 and his ability to repeat that total again.