Confirmed Trade: [NJD/CGY] Jacob Markstrom for Kevin Bahl, 2025 1st round pick (top 10 protected); Flames retain 31.25%

[NJDevils#4]

Bahl was ok. Still has a little upside. With it being a ‘25 protected 1st and the cap retention this seems worth the risk of getting hopefully 2 seasons out of markstrom while we figure out a long term solution.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Huh? So he gets a 23 year old NHL defenseman and a 1st and you think that's not different than a 2nd and crap prospect? Can you become an NHL GM? I'll trade you my crap prospects and 2nd round picks for your NHL defensemen and 1st round picks.

Bahl is a depth defenseman with extremely limited upside.

My comment was that Markstrom would return something like a 2nd (I was assuming a 2024 2nd) and a B level prospect. A 2025 1st and Bahl isn't different than that in value.

 

[Nocashstyle]

What did I miss? They got a late 1st round pick and a #4 defenseman at best? Did you think you got a top 10 pick lol?

Bahl is not and will never be a #4 either

 

[JustNapalmIt]

You didn't get 10th overall. You got a 2025 1st.

Jesus. No kidding. This isnt tough.
My lord.

 

[DVision44]

I’ll take 10th overall any day over a struggling winger and a pick likely worse than 10

lol… what are you talking about?

 

[Lunatik]

Bottom-pairing lefty defensive D-man with the occasional mean streak. Very big, uses that less than you want. Still pretty raw. Decent on the PK.

Not much offense, but can handle the puck well enough for a guy his size. Can be effective when he uses his size and will occasionally play “mean,” but he doesn’t do that consistently enough.

Everyday NHL defenseman but just a “good” bottom pair

Seeing as he is just 24, does he maybe have a Chris Tanev type top 4 type upside?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

with Calgary retaining salary it is more equal than orginally portrayed. a 3ld and a likely 20-25 pick isnt a bad return, definitely not the return Calgary fans pretended they were getting. although markstrom's age regression could push the pick to 15-18.

 

[Double Dion]

Not much offense, but can handle the puck well enough for a guy his size. Can be effective when he uses his size and will occasionally play “mean,” but he doesn’t do that consistently enough.

Everyday NHL defenseman but just a “good” bottom pair guy.

That's how I see him too. Decent top end speed, lacks first stride quickness.

 

[David Suzuki]

Yesterday I posted:

Markstrom unretained 32nd overall
Bahl 64th overall

With puckpedia's calculation of retention, I f***ing NAILED it.
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So the Devils are winning the cup next year?

 

[Forge]

I wonder if he is still good enough to start for the Devils. He seems on the downslope.

He was like 7th in goals saved above expected last year.

He's been inconsistent year to year, and I hated people acting like he was elite to 7 goalie or something, but he's still an above average goalie imo. 11-14 or so for me

 

[CraigsList]

You didn't get 10th overall. You got a 2025 1st.

Hahaha I read it wrong. Still fine by me

 

[rielledup]

I never understood the interest in Markstrom, going to turn 35 this year and based on his last two seasons has already started to decline.

 

[Double Dion]

lol, worth what? You were claiming top 10.

Calgary is retaining 30% and the 2025 pick is top 10 protected.

This return is nothing like you were claiming lol

Who claimed top 10? I said 1st and prospect at 50%.

 

[seabass45]

So much for all those Sorokin to NJ threads, Isles fans should get a reprieve for at least a few months.

 

[Double Dion]

Seeing as he is just 24, does he maybe have a Chris Tanev type top 4 type upside?

No, he's more like Commodore. He doesn't have shutdown type potential. Decent 3rd pairing guy with size.

 

[Shocker]

Idk, seems like a solid deal for both? Goalies don't have the value that some homers think they have, but i think it's still a solid return for the Flames.

And obviously solid for Devils too with the retention.

 

[DJJones]

Its a fine deal for Calgary but “victory lapping” for a young depth defenseman and a possible/probable late 20’s 1st in over a year from now seems a bit absurd.

The Devils gave up no keystone asset here and got Markstrom retained.

That’s a big win.

Thank god for advanced stats.

Team gives up a 1st and a young 6'6 defender that just played 82 games for a 34 year old goalie with one year over .905 in the last 4 year and think they won. Have fun with that rollercoaster.

I thought we were going to have to buy him out last year

 

[Duck Off]

I’ll take 10th overall any day over a struggling winger and a pick likely worse than 10

Who’s gonna tell him?

 

[Bond]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803467243944288569

I thought they'd only get a 2nd if it was Devils or bust. Better than I expected in light of that

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Solid trade. Time to start the Wolf era.

 

[hobgoblin933]

As a Devils team I like it for both teams. Devils desperately need competent goaltending. 2025 1st being top 10 protected shields them from a nightmare scenario if they have another disaster season.

Bahl is good but far from irreplaceable. Flames get an NHL level player and a future prospect.

 

[Figgy44]

Seeing as he is just 24, does he maybe have a Chris Tanev type top 4 type upside?

Based on what I noted about him for the last little bit (but unsure of value), he's probably similar to what we have in Kuznetsov or Hurtig. I still do think that Conroy is experimenting with a style matching type of defense prospect development.

 

[None Shall Pass]

Seeing as he is just 24, does he maybe have a Chris Tanev type top 4 type upside?

I'm not optimistic there but I also wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Double Dion]

with Calgary retaining salary it is more equal than orginally portrayed. a 3ld and a likely 20-25 pick isnt a bad return, definitely not the return Calgary fans pretended they were getting. although markstrom's age regression could push the pick to 15-18.

Why can't you just admit you were completely wrong? I mean you were in the other thread too. Mangiapane a defensive liability and perimeter player....pfft.

 

[sxvnert]

Surprised the Flames finally cucked on the retention. Markstrorm probably gave them no other option.