Confirmed Trade: [NJD/CGY] Jacob Markstrom for Kevin Bahl, 2025 1st round pick (top 10 protected); Flames retain 31.25%

GhostfaceWu

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Sam Bennett was still a prospect after playing 402 regular season games (14:08 ATOI) over ~5.75 seasons in Calgary?

I get that people differ on the exact definition of ‘prospect’ but it has a generally agreed upon meaning that involves not being a full-time NHL for years.

And Miromanov will be 27, have 49 NHL GP and a 2 year/1.25m contract. Sorry, that’s not a prospect. He’s a fringy depth player. Maybe he thrives in a minor roll in the NHL for a while but that can happen with fringe depth guys.

But I wouldn’t debate you calling Miromanov a prospect, if it’s really important to you. You do you.

However “Bennett was a prospect when he was traded to Florida” defies all logic. He wasn’t still a prospect because he was less productive and averaging less ice time in Calgary compared to Florida.
Lol calling Bennett a prospect is the dumbest thing said in this thread.
 

tmg

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We have more issues than goaltending last year and now...Allen and KK gave us very good goaltending and we continued to lose ....Same would have happened with Markstrom and Flames would have ended up having the 10th this year had the trade happened then....Fitz dodged a bad trade there....

Indeed. A stat I noted at coach change time - the devils lost 7 of the first 12 games after the all star game. In those 7 games they scored 11 goals on 254 shots.

A goalie trade wouldn’t have fixed that. The second coming of Hasek himself wouldn’t turn many games where the team was shooting 4.3% from losses into wins.
 

DFF

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I'm sure there were couple of reasonable flames fans that suggested the '25 1st with retention, but lets not act like that was the main narrative around here. Ever since the TDL (and really before it too) it was always the '24 pick, and even after the lottery people were asking everything from the 10thOA to Nemec, Mercer, Holtz and even combinations of those. So to act like a top10 protected '25 first with retention is what flames fans were asking all along is just bollocks. We can bump the old speculation threads.

That said I think the Devils overpayed a bit and this is a big win for CGY. Even if the Devils make the playoffs and Bahl is just a bottom3 dman, I think it's still good value for CGY. And there's potential for this to be huge if the Devils/Markström falls apart and/or Bahl becomes a solid top4 shutdown D.
It’s a win for Calgary regardless

They have no use for him and he would look like shit with that defense anyway
 

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