The only wrong answer here is when people say AINEC.Solid poll. Can't blame anyone for picking Bouchard. Nils is so hyped for his accolades in the SHL, and deservingly so. I want to believe he has the Adam Fox IQ, but there's always too much David Rundblad PTSD.
what are you? 14 years old?
even the prospect poll had Lundkvist 15th and Bouchard 21st.... I think Ill go with the majority opinion of dozens and not just some kid Oilers homerboy.
as are Nurse, Barrie, and Keith
The best part was only Barrie shoots right.LOL, is this some intentional hypocrisy or...?
So you take the majority opinion about the prospects in a poll, but you've somehow ignored the endless posting about how shit our defense is?
Who is Darnell Nurse?
What does Oilers lack to become a Contender?
Predict the Pacific standings
Nurse is clowned for that contract and most consider him lesser 1 D or a 2D. Barrie is repeatedly clowned for being a quasi-forward who was a tire fire in Toronto, people clowned him after his playoff performance vs WPG. Oilers are 100% clowned for bringing in Keith because he's "washed". Most people seem to have us finishing between 2-4th in our division because our D and goal tending is suspect. Ironically, the only people who give our D any semblance of credit are "Kid Oilers Homerboy's", even on our boards it's split between people that have hope for the D and people who think it's an imminent disaster. Not sure how you've come to conclusion that these players are a "high bar", in deviation from the majority opinion.
The best part was only Barrie shoots right.
That had nothing to do with it.Barrie will be ahead of Bouchard on the PP for the foreseeable future, just like Fox will be ahead of Lundkvist.
At even strength, both are likely to play 3rd pair minutes this year. Beyond this year, we'll see. Some have suggested that Lundkvist could play the left side, but I doubt that happens this early in his career. The right side on the 3rd pair is basically his to take, with his only real competition being Schneider, who would likely benefit more by playing top minutes in the AHL this year.
Obviously Ranger fans are going to like their guy, and Edmonton fans are going to like their guy, but I don't think anyone really knows which will end up better. This year should give us some insight, but it may take a few years to get a clearer picture.
I don't think Lundkvist is a surefire 1D or anything but I never liked Bouchard even going into his draft. Also he's ugly. Lundvkist AINEC
Bouchard can't skate and is almost a full year older.
Lundkvist is 5’11* and plays more physically than BouchardI know very little about Lundkvist other than the fact he is 5'10". Because of that reason and the fact Bouchard plays for the team I cheer for I have no other option than to vote for the Oilers prospect in this HF boards poll.
He skates a lot better too, right?Lundkvist is 5’11* and plays more physically than Bouchard
Ehh not by much honestly. He’s better defensively and physically than Bouchard. Their shots are both elite for defensemen, Nils has the better one timer and Bouchard has the better wrist shot and ability to navigate his shots to the net. I’d give the edge to Bouchard but that’s only because Nils developed an elite shot out of seemingly nowhere recently while Bouchard’s shot has been elite for a while now. Bouchard has higher hockey IQ too but Nils isn’t lacking in that department, he’s a smart defenseman but IQ is Bouchard’s best trait probably. Overall, I’d go with Nils but Bouchard has higher upsideHe skates a lot better too, right?
Miller by far. Lundkvist is more of a safe defenseman that’s a lock to become a two way top 4 D that’s good at everything.How does Lundkvist compare to Miller ? I have not watched Lundkvist play but really was impressed with what I saw from Miller. Who is projected to be better of the two?
Gonna go complete opposite of what Lays said and say Lundkvist is the far better prospect, both offensively & defensively.How does Lundkvist compare to Miller ? I have not watched Lundkvist play but really was impressed with what I saw from Miller. Who is projected to be better of the two?
Bouchard handily. Even if you think Nils is a better prospect Bouchard is in a ridiculously good situation for his skill set. His outlet passing and point shot are already high end nhl caliber and he will be playing on a team with Conor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl. When he eventually usurps Barrie on the top PP unit he will challenge for the points and goals lead for D men every year.
Forget which you voted for or who you think will be a better player. The "almost 22" is younger and had a contract where he couldn't play here in North America.. So those 21 NHL games for Bouchard doesn't hold a lot of weight over Lundkvist, especially the easier to make defense on the Oilers. Posters keep pointing out that Lundkvist wasn't playing in the NHL yet.. Yes, because he signed a contract...Lol no he is not.
In what world is Lundkvist the same as a all world CHL defenseman who has 2 years of pro experience, bigger , better shot, and plays in North America
A 5'10 inch defenseman who is almost 22 playing overseas in an inferior league is at the same level ?
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seriously I mean switch the 2 and youd be saying the opposite.... gimme a break.
Definitely worth noting he's never been the best d-man in the SHL, not even top 3.
This is close, voted Bouchard but I'm in the camp of "both are overrated". I see 2nd pairing upside with both, likely mixing good stuff with frustrations.
As voted on by head coaches, team captains, experts/journalist etc.:Which three are better?
I think Miller struggled this season more than most want to admit. Rookie year so you should expect some bad communication, bad reads, and just clear mistakes adjusting to the NHL level, but I didn't like his transition skating. Miller is not a slow skater, but anytime he had to transition from backwards - forwards with an attacking player coming down the wing, he often got beat because the transition was so bad and slow. Miller has nice clapper but his best asset in his tool-box is the long reach. He can poke-check the puck very easily. Not really physical despite being 6'4/6'5. Will lay a hit here and there but when it comes to board battles or knocking players off the puck, he tends to simple poke-check instead of playing the body.How does Lundkvist compare to Miller ? I have not watched Lundkvist play but really was impressed with what I saw from Miller. Who is projected to be better of the two?