Player Discussion Nikita Zadorov

Dennis Bonvie

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How'd he look last night to you? How many goals against was he on the ice for again? They f***ed up and wasted way too much money and term on a very limited depth player. That's simple truth.

So now your argument is coming down to how he looked last night?

He was -2.

Carlo and Lohrei both -3. But they didn't kick anyone's ass for a bad hit.
 

LSCII

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About as good as the 18 other guys on the ice
Avoiding the question is weak. He was on ice for at least 3 goals, including two that he directly had turnovers on. Derp.

He was better than the goaltender who didn't feel like competing anymore in the 2nd period, that's for sure.
Hard to play goal when your defense is letting players establish position in front all night. Even harder when they're not clearing pucks and actively turning it over to allow sustained pressure. But we'll all get there eventually.

So now your argument is coming down to how he looked last night?

He was -2.

Carlo and Lohrei both -3. But they didn't kick anyone's ass for a bad hit.
He was on ice for at least 3 goals, and looked brutal. He let guys sit in front without a clear out, even though I was told he was physical? He also had a bad clearing attempt up the middle that got picked and ended up in the back of the net. So you want to avoid questions and say others were bad, that's fine because it's true, but lets not ignore his role in that debacle. Because his fingerprints were all over that loss.
 
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Hookslide

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How'd he look last night to you? How many goals against was he on the ice for again? They f***ed up and wasted way too much money and term on a very limited depth player. That's simple truth.
The simple truth is that his contract can at some point be moved, Lindholm and Sayman's contract are really killing this teams chance of roster moves and stuck with them for a very long time.
 

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Avoiding the question is weak. He was on ice for at least 3 goals, including two that he directly had turnovers on. Derp.


Hard to play goal when your defense is letting players establish position in front all night. Even harder when they're not clearing pucks and actively turning it over to allow sustained pressure. But we'll all get there eventually.


He was on ice for at least 3 goals, and looked brutal. He let guys sit in front without a clear out, even though I was told he was physical? He also had a bad clearing attempt up the middle that got picked and ended up in the back of the net. So you want to avoid questions and say others were bad, that's fine because it's true, but lets not ignore his role in that debacle. Because his fingerprints were all over that loss.
You asked how he looked last night and I answered. Did I need to elaborate that everybody sucked ass? As far as how many goals he was on the ice for, idk I didn't go back and count but he's -2 so at least a couple but Carlo and Lohrei were both -3 so by that metric they were worse, Carlo especially. Also was only credited with one giveaway last night (Pasta led the pack with 5, followed by Wotherspoon, Osterle and Carlo with 2) so not sure how he could of had two turnovers that led to goals.

On the second bolded, no he didn't clear guys out but can you name me a defenseman who did? Because I can't. Also, how would you feel if he clears the crease and takes a penalty for being big and strong? Mad, I'd assume. He leads the Bruins defensemen in hits by a wide margin as well and is 3rd on the team overall so yes I'd say he's been pretty physical.

At the end of the day he is what he is. An overpaid bottom pairing guy who is being asked to play above his means. My thought on Zadorov going back to last season was always "I'd like the guy but not for the contract that he's probably going to get." and lo and behold I don't like his contract but I have a hard time singling him out when you have A) Your $11m forward and your supposed Norris caliber $9.5m defenseman playing with their heads planted firmly up their asses. B) Your $66m goaltender who sat out demanding top dollar currently being unable to stop a beach ball, C) A forward group that couldn't score in a brothel. D) A coaching staff that is completely out of ideas and E) A team that for whatever reason just can not get themselves motivated to play.

When you consider all of that, it becomes evident that they have way bigger problems right now than Nikita Zadorov. In fact, I'd say he was the only one who seemed like he cared last night.
 

TheRealChrisKelly

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Goaltender, is that what itis called, I prefer 66-million-dollar POUTER!!
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PB37

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Hard to play goal when your defense is letting players establish position in front all night. Even harder when they're not clearing pucks and actively turning it over to allow sustained pressure. But we'll all get there eventually.

Most of the goals scored last night, Swayman of last year stops. At least half of them were goals from transition, including a one handed goal off the rush.

Swayman isn't paid what he's paid to just stop the easy shots. The best players on the team are playing widely inconsistent hockey from game to game and Swayman is one of them.
 

neelynugs

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Most of the goals scored last night, Swayman of last year stops. At least half of them were goals from transition, including a one handed goal off the rush.

Swayman isn't paid what he's paid to just stop the easy shots. The best players on the team are playing widely inconsistent hockey from game to game and Swayman is one of them.
swayman got beat short side high a few times - maybe you tip your hat on 1 of them but you're right that he hasn't been close
to his ceiling...and he knows it based on his quotes last night
 
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bruins4thecup65

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Zads is feeling awfully slow and timid to me playing with not a lot of interest. He just feels soft and not all in.

Something I didn’t expect to see since he was a dude I lobbied for us to sign

There is no snarl to his game like he had in Vancouver and is soft and tender when he should be playing big and tough and mean as F****
 

Dr Quincy

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Zads is feeling awfully slow and timid to me playing with not a lot of interest. He just feels soft and not all in.

Something I didn’t expect to see since he was a dude I lobbied for us to sign

There is no snarl to his game like he had in Vancouver and is soft and tender when he should be playing big and tough and mean as F****
I pretty much disagree with everything.

I think he's a good skater.
I don't think he has a lack of interest. Rather he's one of the most invested players.
He's far from soft.

His problem is what it's always been: he makes bad decisions.

Chases big hits that put him out of position, reads the wrong guy, etc.
 

Hookslide

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I pretty much disagree with everything.

I think he's a good skater.
I don't think he has a lack of interest. Rather he's one of the most invested players.
He's far from soft.

His problem is what it's always been: he makes bad decisions.

Chases big hits that put him out of position, reads the wrong guy, etc.
You summed it up well.
 

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I don't think adding him to the team is as bad as adding E. Lindholm, but in hindsight, the Bruins already had a physical defenseman in Wotherspoon that played well in the playoffs. Hopefully he picks up his play.
 

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I pretty much disagree with everything.

I think he's a good skater.
I don't think he has a lack of interest. Rather he's one of the most invested players.
He's far from soft.

His problem is what it's always been: he makes bad decisions.

Chases big hits that put him out of position, reads the wrong guy, etc.

I don't even dislike his play with the puck. I've liked his work on the offensive blue-line and he's gotten some good looks where he's gotten a quality shot on net. He's been consistent making long stretch break-out passes when not pressure too much.

But he's made some awful decisions positionally that have lead to goals against. His parade to the penalty book has also hurt the team quite a bit.

Fact is he's a 5 million per D-man who I wouldn't trust out there against my opposing team's forwards, which essentially makes him a 3rd pairing guy/5th PK D-man, which hurts considerably in a cap system.
 
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Over the volcano

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Love that he goes for the kill shot. He's not turning down those green light hits. In fact, I think he follows through harder when given the opportunity to light someone up.
And he knows who to target too. Think it was first shift he absolutely buried Keller. We haven't had anyone who locks in on the best/leader of the opposition like that since Chara.

When he did the same to Marchand a couple years ago Frederic jumped him for it. Last night one on Utah wanted anything to do with him.
 
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Cam Em All

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He gets himself in trouble when he doesn't make quick plays (like most players). When he is moving his feet (or moving the puck) fast, he has been affective. All in all he has been a god addition to the team.
 
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Kalus

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He looks like he is trying to earn his overpay of a contract. He needs to settle into being what he is, a good 3rd pair dman. He played better last night because he played more within himself without trying to do too much.
 

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