Player Discussion Nick Suzuki Part 11

[Lafleurs Guy]

Marky is the most underrated in that list imo. On a good team he’s probably a Norris candidate a few years. Our record with him in the lineup vs without him is no coincidence, very cerebral game. I loved Subban, but imo peak Markov was a better player.

That’s fine.

I don’t agree but I think you’re right on him being in bad clubs. ALL these guys fell victim to that unfortunately.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Suzuki is 16th in points among centers, and there are 5 players above him with higher shooting percentages.

Even if you expect Suzuki's shooting percentage to go down, you can definitely expect his assist totals to go up because his elite goalscorer linemate Cole Caufield isn't going to continue shooting at 7.6%.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Suzuki is 16th in points among centers, and there are 5 players above him with higher shooting percentages.

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Even if you expect Suzuki's shooting percentage to go down, you can definitely expect his assist totals to go up because his elite goalscorer linemate Cole Caufield isn't going to continue shooting at 7.6%.

18 percent is (or close to it) is repeatable for a guy with a shot like Suzuki’s. The 33 percent that he’s shot at since late January is not.

He may have had some puck luck in the second half but overall it’s evened out. I don’t think it’s a big deal, just the ebb and flow of a season.

As for CC, that doesn’t seem repeatable. But it’s crazy that it’s lasted a full year. So they obviously have something to address there, it can’t all just be luck. Very likely the shoulder is a factor combined with bad luck. That is an insanely low number for someone with his talent.

 

[Mrb1p]

Suzuki is 16th in points among centers, and there are 5 players above him with higher shooting percentages.

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Even if you expect Suzuki's shooting percentage to go down, you can definitely expect his assist totals to go up because his elite goalscorer linemate Cole Caufield isn't going to continue shooting at 7.6%.

Reinhart hasn't played C in the NHL once and Barzals been on the wing for three years now. Neither are actual C's, though Id be willing to hear it for Barzal since he's played there before.

 

[The Great Weal]

Hes 14th in C scoring, he brings elite defense and he has the worst support out of everyone /Crosby.

You definition of a 1C is wrong, not everyone elses.

He doesnt have 30%, he has 18%, by the way. His shooting % is comparable to Drai and AM and much lower than Point and Reinhart, and you know what? He hangs with those guys shooting wise. Thats why his shooting % is high, not because of dumb luck. Check the goals hes scored, hes just a lethal shooter.

Furthermore, his 5 on 5 shooting percentage isnt even high at 8.8%, his PDO and Secondary assists are also low. None of that indicates luck induced performance or career year.

He's just lucky this year, that 10 game sample last year when the entire team fell apart is way more telling.

 

[Nicko999]

Just wanted to point that out (not saying it's bad necessarily) but Suzuki has kept a 5 on 5 production that is similar to last year. It's the PP numbers that have gone up this year.

 

[Deebs]

Reinhart hasn't played C in the NHL once and Barzals been on the wing for three years now. Neither are actual C's, though Id be willing to hear it for Barzal since he's played there before.

Barzal only moved to wing last year when they got Horvat

 

[morhilane]

Just wanted to point that out (not saying it's bad necessarily) but Suzuki has kept a 5 on 5 production that is similar to last year. It's the PP numbers that have gone up this year.

His 5v5 pts/60 regressed a bit actually (2.03 -> 1.79), but it's probably impacted by Caufield's much larger drop at 5v5.

Power play wise, the Habs pp is just not at the bottom of the league like it was the last two seasons this year.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

He's just lucky this year, that 10 game sample last year when the entire team fell apart is way more telling.

You mean the 51 game sample? His shooting percentage was well within the norm. Around 12 percent.

The previous 31 he was around 25.

16 on the year.

 

[catmanhabsfan]

You mean the 51 game sample? His shooting percentage was well within the norm. Around 12 percent.

The previous 31 he was around 25.

16 on the year.

I think he might have been being facetious if not I laughed at his post for no reason then lol

 

[Goldenhands]

He is about to outscore Saku Koivu most productive season dating from nearly 2 decades ago

 

[Heffyhoof]

One more assist and Suzuki will reach a career high, having hit 40 assists the previous two seasons. 82 points is still on the table right now, let alone if Caufield scored closer to his vaunted 46 in 82 pace from before the injury.

If Suzuki continues his ironman, Montreal will be welcoming it's first 90 point player in a long time next season.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

He is about to outscore Saku Koivu most productive season dating from nearly 2 decades ago

Koivu topped out at 75 points… man.

 

[Mrb1p]

1C babyyyyy

Koivu topped out at 75 points… man.

Lower scoring era though. Thats at least an 85 today, if not more.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Lower scoring era though. Thats at least an 85 today, if not more.

It’s still pretty sad. Then again, so were our teams.

 

[Prairie Habs]

One more assist and Suzuki will reach a career high, having hit 40 assists the previous two seasons. 82 points is still on the table right now, let alone if Caufield scored closer to his vaunted 46 in 82 pace from before the injury.

If Suzuki continues his ironman, Montreal will be welcoming it's first 90 point player in a long time next season.

Could be wrong, but I don't think Suzuki has missed a game in his NHL career. Pretty impressive when you consider the conditions he's had to face so far.

 

[BaseballCoach]

One more assist and Suzuki will reach a career high, having hit 40 assists the previous two seasons. 82 points is still on the table right now, let alone if Caufield scored closer to his vaunted 46 in 82 pace from before the injury.

EDIT After 76 games, Year almost done, Suzuki is 23rd out of the 96 first line players in goals and 26th in points.

For centers not yet 25 years old, he is 1st in the entire league in both goals and points (though Jack Hughes missed time).

 

[Ozmodiar]

Year almost done, Suzuki is 26th out of the 96 first line players in goals and 28th in points.

For centers not yet 25 years old, he is 1st in the entire league in goals and 2nd in points (just behind Jack Hughes).

And Hughes is playing on the wing.

let alone if Caufield scored closer to his vaunted 46 in 82 pace from before the injury.

I detect a touch of sarcasm here

 

[Heffyhoof]

He heard you all have been wanting a PPG+ player and he's doing his best to deliver this season.

 

[SpeedyPotato]

He’s just so smart and calm, can’t believe he’s still only 24 and locked up. Can’t wait for this team to be competitive again, we already know how clutch he is in the playoffs

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

@Redux91

Close to 80.

 

[KevSkillz4]

He’s just so smart and calm, can’t believe he’s still only 24 and locked up. Can’t wait for this team to be competitive again, we already know how clutch he is in the playoffs

I can't imagine Slaf in playoffs aswell!

 

[JianYang]

1C babyyyyy


Lower scoring era though. Thats at least an 85 today, if not more.

Also, replace caufield and slafkovsky with audette and zednik/bulis?

 

[Andrei79]

Also, replace caufield and slafkovsky with audette and zednik/bulis?

That 75 point season was with Higgins and Ryder, along with Markov, Kovalev and Souray on the PP. Goals scored were still around 3gpg around the league.

 

[JianYang]

That 75 point season was with Higgins and Ryder, along with Markov, Kovalev and Souray on the PP. Goals scored were still around 3gpg around the league.

Hmm I didn't realize he had a more productive season than 02/03. Still think 02/03 was more impressive though.