Value of: Nick Robertson

[Stealth JD]

Future Considerations or waiver claim

 

[miscs75]

I've never seen so much pity in one picture.

That’s second to this:

First game back in Toronto after playing the isles in NY for the first time

 

[Byron Bitz]

Could be a good fit on the Capitals. They could use scoring depth and he fits the age of their retool. Cap’s offer a third and Ilya Protas.

 

[SEALBound]

Could be a good fit on the Capitals. They could use scoring depth and he fits the age of their retool. Cap’s offer a third and Ilya Protas.

Would Washington really give up Protas in a deal for a guy like Robertson though?

 

[Boondock]

I’m struggling to understand where the value is for Robertson. He has shown to be undersized, often injured and currently has 1 point in 14 games in his draft +5 season, who recently requested a trade out of Toronto. If the Leafs want a productive #3 C it will cost more than Robertson, in fact Robertson would be the +, unless it’s a cap dump situation, which the Leafs can’t afford. Wingers carry the least value of any position in hockey so I’m not sure what the Leafs could get for him but it won’t be much. Fabbro was just picked up off waivers and Sprong was just traded for future considerations, different ages but more proven productivity than Robertson. Y honest opinion is that he gets a mid level pick or a change of scenery prospect swap.

 

[NVious]

There's no point for the Leafs to at best get a 5th or 7th for him. Just ride it out and hope he figures it out, he has the tools, good speed, great shot, great effort. Maybe he's just a AAAA player, too good for the A/not quite good enough for the show, but he also has shown upside to be a guy who can get 20-30 goals.

Leafs could use all the scoring depth they can get, so no point in trading him for nothing. I'd rather he just flop and at least there is a definitive answer on him.

 

[Boondock]

There's no point for the Leafs to at best get a 5th or 7th for him. Just ride it out and hope he figures it out, he has the tools, good speed, great shot, great effort. Maybe he's just a AAAA player, too good for the A/not quite good enough for the show, but he also has shown upside to be a guy who can get 20-30 goals.

Leafs could use all the scoring depth they can get, so no point in trading him for nothing. I'd rather he just flop and at least there is a definitive answer on him.

I agree with everything you said here, we might disagree on goal scoring potential totals but that wasn’t the point of the post. The only other reason I would understand would be to get a higher potential less developed prospect with more years of waiver eligibility - but I would assume based on the team, all leaf assets will be utilized for now pieces. Bringing us back to your original point - no point moving him because he checks a lot of boxes for under $900k

 

[Byron Bitz]

Would Washington really give up Protas in a deal for a guy like Robertson though?

Protas, was a late pick in the most recent draft, not a very valuable asset or he would have been drafted a lot higher.

 

[OrangePMD]

Protas, was a late pick in the most recent draft, not a very valuable asset or he would have been drafted a lot higher.

This the HF boards, acquiring brothers on the same team is the dream come true. Protas brothers could be the next Sedins, Richards or Gretzkys, and the small one 6'5" 201 lbs.

 

[WarriorofTime]

1 point on the season. May as well just wait around to see if he hits waivers.

 

[Stephen]

Not a fan of Robertson, but I care about Jarnkrok even less. I’d rather just ship Jarnkrok out, he is so vanilla plus he totally disappears in the playoffs. Useless.

Jarnkrok and Robertson are both the wrong stuff for different reasons. Jarnkrok is a smart, rice cracker bland player who can play a utility role but has no discernable pop in his game. Robertson has one over powering shot but doesn't think the game that well and his business to effectiveness ratio is not that good. Where Jarnkrok is dependable, Robertson isn't. Where Robertson has upside, Jarnkrok doesn't.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Would Washington really give up Protas in a deal for a guy like Robertson though?

Protas, was a late pick in the most recent draft, not a very valuable asset or he would have been drafted a lot higher.

The Caps traded up 7 spots on draft day to take Ilya Protas, so despite a 3rd round pedigree it seems the Caps are pretty high on him, and unlikely to move him at this point.

His brother was also a Caps 3rd rounder; in a 2019 redraft he likely goes mid-late first.

 

[Nashan 7111]

With his waiver eligibility and lacklustre production this year, it seems like the Nick Robertson era in Toronto could be ending soon.

What do people think his value is, and what would Leafs fans realistically expect in return?

Bag of pucks

 

[HairyKneel]

But.... but..... the Leafs deserve a haul for this small, soft, slow payer with good hands. They damn well deserve it.

 

[ole ole]

Eller went for a 2nd when he wasn't even playing as well as he has for the Pens vs the Caps the year he was moved to the Avs. A very good 3c that is a fantastic penalty killer that is reliable in his role could definitely fetch that.

He quite literally did a few years ago and like I said, he's better now than he was when he did fetch a 2nd for the Caps.

Imagine saying a bloke that went for a 2nd when he wasn't as good as he is right now, couldn't go for a 2nd to a contender again, lol.

Especially the type of player that they could really use come playoff time. playoff time.

 

[jaric1862]

At one point, I think we could've gotten a mid-round pick for him. Given what he's done so far this season (nothing), he's probably waiver fodder. Someone will definitely claim him.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Seems like a waiver wire player. Cheap salary so some team probably takes a flyer on him.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

But.... but..... the Leafs deserve a haul for this small, soft, slow payer with good hands. They damn well deserve it.

He's not slow.

One thing he does have is speed

 

[DesertPenguin]

Given Robertson's recent struggles to stay in the lineup, he seems done in Toronto.

Sam Poulin for Robertson, straight up. Former first round pick, C/W flexibility. Hasn't managed to stick on the Pens for a variety of reasons but still has middle 6 potential. Thoughts?

 

[TheNumber4]

Everytime I see this guy, he's over shooting. Selfish player that doesn't work well with others.

 

[iago]

I'm hanging up if it doesn't start with a 2nd tbh. He is our top 6 injury replacement when a winger gets hurt, he's also our best 3rd liner and I think the announcers last night said he's leading the league or team in penalties against (other teams penalized because of him).

I would consider moving him in a package for a 3C upgrade like Brock Nelson or Kyle Palmieri tho.

Sounds like you will be keeping him in Toronto.

 

[leafsfan2point0]

He’s completely lost his confidence. He definitely needs a change of scenery.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

What kind of "change of scenery" young player would the Leafs reasonably want in return?

Some have mentioned Poulin. Does that work?

 

[toddkaz]

Mid round pick

That much?

 

[cyris]

What kind of "change of scenery" young player would the Leafs reasonably want in return?

Some have mentioned Poulin. Does that work?

I’d probably prefer a mid round pick or someone that doesn’t require waivers but I also understand beggars can’t be choosers so to speak.
I really don’t think most change of scenery type of players would make our lineup right now either.
That’s said Robertson is pretty much done here, it’s best for everyone involved to just move on at this point.